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Anyone running KWv3's ? How's the build quality, warranty and service?


ORIGINAL: bebbetufs

have you tried both options?

From the photos they seem like spherical bearings. I have sent them an e-mail. I'll let you know what they reply.
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I have used gaz on my old civic racecar, leda on a 944 turbo (rears rebuilt by gaz) and kwv3 on my s2.
Comparing the leda to the kw's, the kw's make the car feel more modern somehow.

Markk has kw on his red turbo road car and had emc gaz on his 944 turbo racecar.
 
DavidL on this forum has KWv3 on his uprated 944t and is very happy with them. He doesn't track the car, so has them set for fast road use.

It's what I would have opted for when I replaced my suspension. Right up until the time I decided to keep it stock and simply fit replacement new Koni adjustable stuff. More than adequate for my 3 mile commute to work.
 
Edh.
How do you find the valving is coping with the uprated springs. Do you have to adjust the dampening rates (compression/rebound) towards max firm, or is there still more adjustment available?
 
I'm running with KW specs on adjustment - likely to add a bit more rear rebound as I still get a tendency for mid-corner oversteer. Michael Grassl in their tech team is very helpful - I think he's an experienced racer & knows his stuff.
 
Thanks.
This Michael Grassl is he in Germany or in the UK? If you don't mind could you please PM me his contact details?
 
worse than standard, but perfectly OK for the sort of use the car gets. I'll be driving to Spa next month and it won't be a problem - even on belgian motorways!
 
This level of frost heave is what I'm likely to encounter on some sections of main road en route to the track. I don't need them to be comfortable, but do you think it will be tolerable?

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KW V3 is a great quality suspension,but in its standard form is fast road,trackday performance.
For race pace a race suspension settup like GAZ or JRZ settup on correct springs for your car is what you need,the two products are for two different functions.
KW is refined and will easily tolerate salt in winter...
GAZ does not like big potholes and salt,Kev was not overly keen that my racecar got used on the road as much as it did,also it is not that refined especially with heavy duty springs,it is tolerable and will work on the road but it is a compromise.be prepared for squeakes,rattles,clangs and rebuilds.
Decide what the car is for..,KW V3 is a more road biased settup..
GAZ or similar is more for dedicated track car/racecar.
Both good just pick the one for the right job.
Speak to EMC Kevin will give you sound experienced advice.
I have no experience of KW clubsport,but can imagine it would be a great option for a track car used on the road.
 

ORIGINAL: bebbetufs

This level of frost heave is what I'm likely to encounter on some sections of main road en route to the track. I don't need them to be comfortable, but do you think it will be tolerable?
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only just...I wouldn't fancy driving more than a mile or two on it, certainly not 50 or 100

looks even worse than the tank road from Eupen on the way to the nurburgring...


btw I think Mark has summed it all up for you perfectly
 
ORIGINAL: MarkK

KW V3 is a great quality suspension,but in its standard form is fast road,trackday performance.
For race pace a race suspension settup like GAZ or JRZ settup on correct springs for your car is what you need,the two products are for two different functions.
KW is refined and will easily tolerate salt in winter...
GAZ does not like big potholes and salt,Kev was not overly keen that my racecar got used on the road as much as it did,also it is not that refined especially with heavy duty springs,it is tolerable and will work on the road but it is a compromise.be prepared for squeakes,rattles,clangs and rebuilds.
Decide what the car is for..,KW V3 is a more road biased settup..
GAZ or similar is more for dedicated track car/racecar.
Both good just pick the one for the right job.
Speak to EMC Kevin will give you sound experienced advice.
I have no experience of KW clubsport,but can imagine it would be a great option for a track car used on the road.
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Thanks for your thorough explanation.
If I did not have to drive 9 hours to the track and 9 hours back I would go for a track setup, for sure. Problem is I can't, they will have to work on the road as well. If I do get the V3s do yo think they will hold up to being used on track?
 
I tend to agree, althoug some over at rennlist say they can't stand the abuse of being run on track. I'm thinking our main roads probably will punish them much more than the track will.
 
Just been reading this for a few days, so i thought ide chip in my 2pth...

Ive had both the KW v3 and the Gaz [EMC race spec], kit on my cars.

The KWv3 was first fitted to my S2 then to my 968 sport.
All over aprox 3-4 year period.
It worked great , i travelled [drove the car] to and from many of the uk tracks and had some fab times on circuit.
The car ran on Dunlop D01J track tyres so had lots of grip.
The KW was great, but as i progressed up the "tallent" ladder and found myself pushing harder and faster, i found the KW,s limits.

Thats why i bought some of the GAZ kit. It is more race focused, but is definately stiffer than the KW.
also its not as durable,
Its not as resistant to our salty winter roads...
Mine didnt need a rebuild but ive know a lot that have....
They leak around the piston seals, usually the front passenger side , must be something to do with the cornering forces and direction of our uk tracks...

So, in conclusion.
If your driving your car to and from the track, get the KWv3, if trailering any of the other kit, be it GAZ , AST, etc etc...
Hope this is helpfull...[:D][:D]
 

ORIGINAL: bebbetufs

I tend to agree, althoug some over at rennlist say they can't stand the abuse of being run on track. I'm thinking our main roads probably will punish them much more than the track will.
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I have seen pictures of a failure on the camber "nut" on the kw strut - haven't heard of any premature damper failures. Maybe you should fit your track suspension when you get there? [:D]
 
:D after the road building was set out to private companies the quality of the foundations have dropped resulting in lots of frost heave damage in certain areas....

I know about the camber nut failure. IT should be cureable though. It sounds like the GAZ kit will perhaps not live long on our roads.

Dave: Thank you for your insight. Very informative.

That leaves me with the KW V3 and club sport options and the H&R coilovers. I guess I could get the club sports valved a bit softer and closer to the V3s. Do they have the trick high speed valving?

Where is the best place to come across a used set of either of these?
 
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