Anyone know this car? H676MJH

[shandyhaggis]

ORIGINAL: eddieedmo

ORIGINAL: shandyhaggis

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

Really hard to know with this car; it could be a bargain at that sort of price, it's a gorgeuos colour and interior. Trouble is, until you see the srvice history it's nigh-on impossible to judge it.

If it was serviced by a PC until 2010, then that would be the last time anything major was done I guess? On that basis, if the belts were done then it's due next year and could easily be a grand. You'd need to see that the clutch wasn't original, the brake calipers have been overhauled, and the fuel and brake lines replaced. That could be another three grand! Factor in the cost of the bodywork, it looks from the ad as if it's needing quite a lot of work to bring it up to good nick, and you could have a £7K-plus bill on top of purchase price. That's all worst-case, of course, and guesimating at specialist prices; if you can do the work yourself it's a different matter. Even so, it's a lot of potential work and parts.

If the history turns up, and at least some of the major work is up to date, then it looks viable. Otherwise it's got to be considered a project, or you look for a car where someone's already spent loads. Unless it's just a cheap S2 that you want to run in to the ground, of course.

On the other hand there is this one all complete and restored but its done 199k and its up for a fair amount of money....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-Porsche-944-3-0-S2-immaculate-car-simply-stunning-/121034961278?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c2e3ef17e

I do know this car and it is in very good condition , the garage the business is attached to is Powels of Ripon and they specialise in restoration of very rare cars , they are excellent traditional craftsmen and the owner and sons are meticulous in there work.
They work on some wonderful classic cars and a surprise is always there when I visit.
The S2 is also in a rare colour linked to top Porsche salesman awards I believe.

Nick []

Thanks Nick I'm chatting to them now.

 

[peanut]

sorry I wasn't havin a pop at you in particular but to be frank there is no substitute for going to see the car and inspecting it . Take an experienced 944 owner with you. Anyone local to you would be more than happy to .
You really can't expect too much from a 944S2 priced at 1.5k that is basically what it is worth as parts and scrap.!

You need to search this forum for some costings and suggested work programs so you know what you are getting yourself into. At this price level you should accept you will need to replace the belts & water pump so you know thats sound .Allow for a full service at least .

Why don't you pay for a MOT on the car.? For £40 or less you'll get a comprehensive mechanical check and report .

 

[shandyhaggis]

ORIGINAL: peanut

sorry I wasn't havin a pop at you in particular but to be frank there is no substitute for going to see the car and inspecting it . Take an experienced 944 owner with you. Anyone local to you would be more than happy to .
You really can't expect too much from a 944S2 priced at 1.5k that is basically what it is worth as parts and scrap.!

You need to search this forum for some costings and suggested work programs so you know what you are getting yourself into. At this price level you should accept you will need to replace the belts & water pump so you know thats sound .Allow for a full service at least .

Why don't you pay for a MOT on the car.? For £40 or less you'll get a comprehensive mechanical check and report .

Hi

no worries no offence take at all. I absolutely do take your point you are right. Im definitely drawn to something else. If I had nothing else on the go at the moment Id take a punt and work it through but Ive too much on at the moment.

I might need some help looking at the other one in Yorkshire though

thanks

Andrew

 

[peanut]

if the cars previous owner was a PCGB member then the chances are that the car has been well maintained and could be a real bargain.
Alternatively you could be unlucky and the cam belt could snap or the water pump leak the first week you have the car. thats going to cost you £500+ straightaway. These cars can be expensive to run if you are unlucky.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

I really don't understand all this nonsense about service history on a car costing £1.5k

Hi Nick,

I guess my point would be that it says Porsche history up to 2010. If that's the case it is well worth looking further, depending how much work was done and how bad the bodywork is; it might well be worth a punt. Without any history, it changes the whole balance to me as that's one of it's main features?

I agree that service history over, say, five years or so ago is largely irrelevant, as current condition is the only thing to worry about, but it's also a guide to how the car's been looked after. Having it serviced for 20 years at a PC, then losing all the history, sounds strange. I do like to see previous MOTs, lots of bills, original handbook etc., as it shows previous owners have cared about the car.

I also think it's always worth pointing out that it's not a £1500 car; no 944 S2 is. It's a car that you might get for £1500, but unless you treat it as a scrapper you would want to spend at least some money, probably quite a lot of money, getting it sorted. In reality it's probably a £5K car before you even look at the bodywork? Again, assuming that most larger jobs need doing, and you're paying someone to do them. I know full well how the costs can escalate!

Not saying it won't make a good project car, but the more expensive one looks, on paper at least, as though it'll be a lot cheaper in the long run. []

 

[porscot]

I see the car sold for just over £1900. The seller must be pleased as he wanted £1750 ono when advertised on here. The story I got from the seller was that up til 2010 the owner got it serviced at their local Porsche Centre. That owner died and it seems the service history was then not passed on to the next owner. Porsche were prepared to say when they had last serviced the car but would only give the owner the full details. Because of the service history only going up to 2010 I felt the car needed a full service including belts and probably water pump. The interior is good but as was suggested in the advert the body work is where the money needs spent to make it somewhere near the £5k car referred to. This may be the project for someone which is why it bid to £1900 but IMO the price reflected the work required and was more work than I was looking for which is why I passed up the opportunity when I went to view it before it went on ebay.

 

[shandyhaggis]

ORIGINAL: Graeme Cobb

I see the car sold for just over £1900. The seller must be pleased as he wanted £1750 ono when advertised on here. The story I got from the seller was that up til 2010 the owner got it serviced at their local Porsche Centre. That owner died and it seems the service history was then not passed on to the next owner. Porsche were prepared to say when they had last serviced the car but would only give the owner the full details. Because of the service history only going up to 2010 I felt the car needed a full service including belts and probably water pump. The interior is good but as was suggested in the advert the body work is where the money needs spent to make it somewhere near the £5k car referred to. This may be the project for someone which is why it bid to £1900 but IMO the price reflected the work required and was more work than I was looking for which is why I passed up the opportunity when I went to view it before it went on ebay.

Hi Graeme

I got the same storey but when I contacted the various OPCs they could only confirm 2 services in 2009 and 2010. Nothing prior to that. Its a real shame. Not saying it would have added any more value to the car or changed my decision not to bid but Im disappointed with Porsche for not keeping the records up to date and available. Im hoping its gone to someone who would restore it but the current owner did say a number of breakers were looking to take it and I think with no service history it increases the likelihood of that sort of thing happening.

Never mind I'm still looking at the other one I mentioned above, bit put off by the 199k on the clock but Im sure its swings and roundabouts as the body is now perfect and lots of other things have been restored.

Thanks

Andrew

 

[ChasR]

Mileage IMO is almost irrelevant.

My Turbo on over 170k is a far better car in most ways old my old S2 which was on 130k. OK the Turbo has been treated to a number of goodies which for now keep it fresh, but that can go for any car .

Maybe I am being picky, but the prices of some on his cars are a little OTT on the website (OK, he is a dealer and all, but still!)