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944 S2 coilovers

John Sims said:
If only Porsche had spoken to some bloke at MIRA when they designed the 944. Who would have thought that a Company like Porsche would have learnt nothing from the disasters of the early 916 and would have no comprehension of the aerodynamics of the 944. I am sure they didn't bother testing anything and the plastic panels on the belly of the Turbos were just put there so that they could charge more.
I seem to recall from Adrian Newey's book that he did Aeronautical design with a view to automotive design as there wasn't courses in aerodynamics at the time, as such. And wasn't it Colin Chapman who first considered wings on an F1 car? I also seem to remember sundry references to supposition and even testing causing contrary results when put into practice.


A Positive rake is not required for road use John, it uses more fuel and would of hurt the production consumption figures,
Only beneficial for Racing

Which bit are you calling the belly? Under the Engine or the rear under bumper diffuser spoiler?

Yes the point is Adrian studied aeronautics wing and flow design which gave him a better understanding of the principles of aeroplane wings that he could apply in reverse to an automotive Racing application, some modern designers have only studied CFD and hence why as you mentioned some of this info does not correlate to the track!

There are still lots of Employees working in F1 that are old Skool from the 1980's, these people were so much more hands on they have much more of a idea than some of the newer breed who can only draw on CAD, Even Adrian still sticks to pencil and a drafts board and he has never wanted to reteach himself Computer aided designing...

In 1973 My father was with BRM and la mechanic with Niki Lauda who you may know sadly passed away this week(RIP), in these days there were no computers telemetry on the car at all, only the driver could and would know what the car was or wasn't doing, but best of all only a very select few (Niki Included) understood how to make the car handle better.

Today's F1 is no different as in many people all have the same job but some people are far more exceptional at understanding the art of making car's faster, where others fail or to be PC are just not as talented.

R






 
My A4 came from the factory with at least 15mm maybe 20mm rake, maybe Audi have not learnt anything from all those Le Mans wins?

My 968 on the other hand is set dead flat with a 10 stone bloke in the boot, because who can afford 86 litres of V-power these days
 
Waylander said:
My A4 came from the factory with at least 15mm maybe 20mm rake, maybe Audi have not learnt anything from all those Le Mans wins?

My 968 on the other hand is set dead flat with a 10 stone bloke in the boot, because who can afford 86 litres of V-power these days



Oh....86 Litres of Juice ?? Is that a Special Le mans tank you have in here then? My 968 had a 74 Litre tank..

R
 


Ok I will get him to loose 3/4 of a stone

one day you will get off your high horse stop correcting everything everyone says, and just let it pass

have you had all the door frames in your house widened so you can get your head through?
 


When you get to the gates of St. Peter I bet you would say to god, mate if you had done it my way you could have had sat AND Sunday off

i could have had 2 Jerry cans in the boot as well

You up don’t have to be right all the time

oh and if you re-read I never said it was all in the tank
 
On the topic of suspension, I've just bought a set of lowering springs for use on the front of my S2. They are advertised as being correct for a 968, but apparently they fit the 944S2 as well. It should lower it by about 30mm, which is possibly a bit more than I want, but we'll do it anyway and see how it looks.

To save too much work at the rear I'm hoping to be able to just lower that on the spring plates (by maybe 15-20mm or so).

If it all goes horribly wrong you can expect to see an unused set of 968 lowering springs appear for sale on the 968 section of the website very soon!
 
I had S2 Konis on my old 944 and used the 968 lowering springs on them as the other cars had a narrower spring so they should fit.

I also dropped the rear rear on the eccentrics and there was just enough travel to get the sills level so hopefully you’ll be fine.

Alas, we’ll never truly know whether Roger can back up his bull if he met up with other 944 owners. If his real world people skills are anything like his online ones then he wouldn’t be racing that day, he’d be folded in half and stuffed in a bin with all the other useless crap.
 
kierantrees95 said:
Had my S2 for a few years, and now I am looking at a set of coilovers for it. I have read the SPAX catologue and it states that the rear coilovers are in aid of the torsoin bar. where can I then go to set it all up and make sure the car drives well.
any advice is appreciated


What part of the country are you ?

R
 
Ewan said:
On the topic of suspension, I've just bought a set of lowering springs for use on the front of my S2. They are advertised as being correct for a 968, but apparently they fit the 944S2 as well. It should lower it by about 30mm, which is possibly a bit more than I want, but we'll do it anyway and see how it looks.

To save too much work at the rear I'm hoping to be able to just lower that on the spring plates (by maybe 15-20mm or so).

If it all goes horribly wrong you can expect to see an unused set of 968 lowering springs appear for sale on the 968 section of the website very soon!

Well they will fit, but as you said, a bit further than I would go personally, could you not find any 10 or 20mm lowering springs?

Do you know what the spring rating is on them? That would for me be the biggest tell on how they will be for the driving you want to do, and if that rating would likely see those springs push the lower ball joint too far on maximum compression.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but aren't the standard 968 Clubsport springs (not the M030 variant) 20mm lower then standard and fit straight on to the standard S2 strut?
 
Following the above advice I’ve now bought some new 968 CS springs from my local main dealer. So the 30mm lowering set are going back. I’m convinced this is a better option, so many thanks to those that assisted.

Fitting will be in a couple of weeks, and if I can then work out how to post pics (something I couldn’t suss out last time I tried), I’ll show you all the outcome.
 
The new 968 CS front springs are now fitted, along with the an adjustment at the rear to re-level the car. It looks great. Certainly not too low and in fact, I'd say the car now looks to be the height it always should have been. I'd recommend this option to anyone else looking to re-fresh their springs and improve the look of their 944.
 
Glad you're happy Ewan.

Shocks will be the next thing on mine (next year) just realised it's been 15 years since I last replaced them :rolleyes:

 

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