2.7 peeps

912UK · Jun 20, 2013

Well I got to drive my new 2.7 project today for it's MOT

here she is already to go home with a 12 month pass to the freedome of the UK and Europe's Roads.

I had to get new tyres, adjust head lights, new battery and some other tinker parts.

But I took it for a spin.. Got to say as we have an S2 cab I really like the coupe over the cab and I also really now rate the 2.7 engine is it me or does the 2.7 feel like it's more freely able to rev more..

where as the 3ltr is more. well....... slower, walloy'ly in some wierd way.. I found it was very responsive and smooth.

I popped into my local breakers yard as he has two 944's there just to see what I could get and there gone crushed!!! arrrrrrrrr [

] all those parts.. he doesn't keep cars long you pick your parts or they get it!

Silly thing is, he wants alot for parts so you think.. narrr and then they get crushed! so you both lose... Very odd place.

So now I have moth balled the car till July.

I will then get it back and sort out the sills on the car.

Does any one have S2 plastic Sill covers ( trim ) I would like to add that on to my car.

This year is about shaking down the car, sorting out any small issues and keeping her tip top condition. She's not going to win any shows but she's still alive and very much kicking [

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homesea · Jun 21, 2013

The car looks great, in all the 944's over the years I've bought I've always stayed away from white ones. But now the more white ones I see I think it's probably the best colour for them.

I'm a bit confused regarding the rev comment isn't the 2.7 a 8v and your S2 a 16v? So shouldn't the S2 rev better? I'm guessing the 2.7 is a fair bit lighter than the S2 cab so that will make it feel quicker.

Veerzigzag · Jun 21, 2013

well done on the MoT....
While you are fettling and adding sill covers etc, IMHO she would look good with a turbo rear valance

zcacogp · Jun 21, 2013

She looks good (the black "Porsche" decal on the back sets it off brilliantly) but she does need a rear valance of some sort, as Mike said.

Do the non-S2/Turbo models have the attachments for the sill covers? The have a different design at the bottom of the front wings, so there will be nothing to join them up to.

Oli.

Dockrell · Jun 21, 2013

In Michael Cotton's guide to the 924, 944 and 968 the S2 is shown as 10 kilo's lighter than the 2.7. To 60 mph the S2 is 1 second faster at 6 seconds compared to 7 seconds for the 2.7. It's only at higher speeds that the S2 romps away being 4.5 seconds faster to 100 mph and 10 mph faster at maximum speed.

Mike
White 2.7 automatic

zcacogp · Jun 21, 2013

ORIGINAL: Dockrell

... the S2 is shown as 10 kilo's lighter than the 2.7.

Really? Now that does sound a little odd to me. The S2 has an additional camshaft and more complex cylinder head than the 2.7. While I can imagine this won't make a lot of difference, I am very surprised that the S2 is lighter than the 2.7.

I wonder what other differences there are which would affect this. Is the Turbo/S2 bodywork lighter than that of the Lux/2.7 models? What else is different between them?

Oli.

edh · Jun 21, 2013

I think a turbo valence would just be wrong.. Much nicer with the clean rear end..

White 944's are my favourites

The 2.7 always gets good reviews - I've never driven one but would like to try one day.

The black sill trims come in 2 parts - along the sill & then a small bit at the bottom of the front wing. The line continues with the black "batwing" under the PU. I think you really need all of these parts fitted together, and you can't fit the batwing with a 2.7 PU. I had the sill trims off when my sills were done last year, and don't see any point refitting them to be honest. They do hide the lift and jacking points, but that's about it.

chrisg · Jun 21, 2013

Hiya

I've got two of the long black trim units from an S2 sitting in the garage, PM to discuss pick up ?

Chris

912UK · Jun 21, 2013

thanks for the comments..

I drove the S2 Cab today and it's different again it feels more solid and the power is there.. I just felt the 2.7 was more like a nimble car to the S2.

Mind you we have those Cup 1 wheels on the S2 which prob don't help

I got the S2 thought the MOT but by the skin of her teeth

I keep getting the hand brake and Anti lock brake light up.. I have to shut it down and then it clears which got me though the MOT

as it was not showing then.. but drive off home they both pop up !

So I need to look at that if any one has any idea's

Rear valance yeah I am 50/50 on that really.. I will look at others and make my mind up..

Side trims yes the S1 over the S2 has lugs missing but I had to make them anyway for the S2 as they had rotted away so no different to make for this one.. 90% of them are there

Yes very keen to talk about sill covers to tidy that all up..yes please.

Right off to work now I have done the MOT..

And yes I do like white how ever the Silver with blue roof cab does look bang up to date still now!

edh · Jun 21, 2013

ABS runs through checks when the car is moving - you can hear the pump self-test

It's probably a sensor that has failed.

944 man · Jun 21, 2013

Theres no such thing as an 'S1'! S in 944S stands for Super, which wasnt as super as Porsche had hoped so they tried again with the S2 - the Super 2. All 944S2 models are series two cars, but so are all 944S models.

Series one Porsche 944s were manufactured before August 1985 and series two 944s were manufactured after August 1985.

Also: the 968 was a series three, not an S3, seeing as we are putting myths to bed...

kdp · Jun 21, 2013

So that's the noise I hear for a second or two soon after start up! I wondered what that was - I thought it was my PAS pump making that strange noise and that there was a problem with it.

I can now listen out for the whirring (not really sure how else to describe it) and rest assured that it's a positive sound and that my ABS is doing what it should.

912UK · Jun 21, 2013

OK, ( make a note detail person )

I only called it S1 one as in early one , eg series one before the series two which normaly follows on after a series 1 which then makes the next one a series two. Which is very handy to know there is a series 1 and a series 2 so that you can see the difference between the series 1 and the series 2 because that is what makes the bl***Y world go round [

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Right.. ok so my sensor has gone ekk

is there one on each wheel?

if so I think the earth's look abit suspect to be honest on all of them I will refit new ones and see if this clears the light..

any tips would be great thanks..

edh · Jun 21, 2013

yes one on each wheel - can be a pain to remove...

I'm told the earths hardly matter - mine were very grotty, but cleaning them up didn't fix it. I also tested the sensors at the ABS ECU harness, but while they all tested within spec, the fault was only fixed by replacing one of them. Rear sensors are different to the fronts, so you might want one of each

good luck with the fault finding..

tref · Jun 21, 2013

OK... there is also something subtle to look for on ABS sensors... just got to remember it... Ah yes! OK... If you test the sensors "by the book" measuring the resistance, including measuring the resistance of the loom they can check out perfectly ok... however...

What can happen apparently is that they corrode and short out internally between eth casing and the windings inside... of course, measuring the resistance of the sensor itself doesn't show that out, as the resistance between the two pins remains exactly as it should... so, after doing the check according to the book, also check the resistance of each pin of the sensor to earth on the car. Now I have to make it up as I go along, but I think they should be open circuit (assuming you have the sensor disconnected) but will either show the same resistance as the sensor should, or show a short if they have corroded internally. Certainly this identified a problem on my S2 (on which I subsequently had to drill out the sensor - great fun, you wouldn't believe the dusty bits of copper it generates!).

Mike_Pollock · Jun 21, 2013

These may help -

zcacogp · Jun 21, 2013

I've never been a big fan of the toast-rack rear valance - it looks like an ugly added extra to my eyes. The spoiler, on the other hand, looks excellent.

I think they need something there as the back of the car looks a little 'lost' with nothing. (Although didn't the 924's have nothing there?)

Oli.

944Turbo · Jun 22, 2013

ORIGINAL: 912UK

thanks for the comments..

I drove the S2 Cab today and it's different again it feels more solid and the power is there.. I just felt the 2.7 was more like a nimble car to the S2.

Mind you we have those Cup 1 wheels on the S2 which prob don't help

I got the S2 thought the MOT but by the skin of her teeth

I keep getting the hand brake and Anti lock brake light up.. I have to shut it down and then it clears which got me though the MOT

as it was not showing then.. but drive off home they both pop up !

think on a scope if you spin a wheel the sensors show as a square wave. Could be a broken cable (they do eventually fatigue with the flexing) how quickly does the light come back on? at 6mph or some time later?

Tony

Dave928 · Jun 22, 2013

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

I've never been a big fan of the toast-rack rear valance - it looks like an ugly added extra to my eyes. The spoiler, on the other hand, looks excellent.

I think they need something there as the back of the car looks a little 'lost' with nothing. (Although didn't the 924's have nothing there?)

Oli.

924's are indeed bare at the back !
I'm not overly keen on the toast rack valance design. tI does make me think that Porsche were something in the mind of 'we'll put the crappy bit on for the non-turbo models, and the nicer valance and smoother front on for our flagship turbo versions'

Mike_Pollock · Jun 22, 2013

Standard all 924 and 944 Lux models are bare at the back, initially the toastrack was an option, then some time after the Turbo was introduced their valance became an option also.

There were quite a number of glassfibre aftermarket ones produced, to both design.