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Schuey

Schuey

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Morning All,

I wanted to ask, the factory Front End Paint Protection Film option, is it actually fitted at the Porsche factory in Germany or is it something that is done here when the car lands in the UK?

Also, do you know what type of PPF they use and is it the self healing type?

I ask because I'm thinking of ticking this option on my order.

Thanks.
 
I have recently taken delivery of a 992 and selected the paint protection option. It is fitted at the factory and from what I can see the work is spot on. It is the self-healing type.

I had additional protection is done by https://www.blackmagicdetailing.co.uk/ and they use the same as the factory - Xpel. Terrific guys and excellent service who I wholeheartedly recommend.

 
Thanks Peter for the confirmation, I will get this added to my spec. Much appreciated.
 
Early reports suggested that cars with factory PPF really weren't that good, although Peter has confirmed this seems to have improved.
Personally, I would not spec it from the factory on the following grounds:-
1.) It is better to have the surface paintwork treated and corrected by a detailer prior to the film application.
2.) The process is often cheaper when carried out by a UK specialist.
3.) Ongoing warranty for the protective film life is often much better.

Regards,

Clive
 
Lancerlot said:
Early reports suggested that cars with factory PPF really weren't that good, although Peter has confirmed this seems to have improved.
Personally, I would not spec it from the factory on the following grounds:-
1.) It is better to have the surface paintwork treated and corrected by a detailer prior to the film application.
2.) The process is often cheaper when carried out by a UK specialist.
3.) Ongoing warranty for the protective film life is often much better.

Regards,

Clive
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Hi Clive,

Thanks for your reply and some interesting points you raise. Here's my responses:

1) One would hope there aren't any imperfections on the paintwork at the factory by the time the PPF is applied, if it is done at the right stage of course. My understanding is that most minor swirls and scratches are caused during vehicle transportation to destination country and then further swirls added by the OPC when they clean and prepare the car for handover. My thinking is, if the PPF is applied at factory after the car has been built, then there should be minimal if any defects in the paintwork?

2) Factory option is circa £1300. Most reputable Detailers in the UK are charging £1200 plus VAT for front end PPF, and then on top of that they will say your car needs paint correction because of all the swirls and scratches caused during transportation and dealer prep, and therefore you're looking at £2000 at least?

3) Interesting, but my thinking is if you have the factory PPF option and if there are any issues with the PPF down the line, then you simply take it back to your OPC and it's for them to get it sorted from whoever they use locally for this kind of work. This saves you from having to fall out with your local detailer and avoid being charged for any corrections?

This is just my thinking of course and happy to be corrected as I have time yet to make a decision. I don't mind using a local recommended fitter, but I need to know if it's definitely worth it over the factory fitment.

Thanks.
 
Thankfully there were no imperfections anywhere on the car when they checked it over.

I had my whole car ceramic coated - over the factory ppf and it looks absolutely super

And I, like many others, am very fussy too. :ROFLMAO:




 
Peter_Bull said:
Thankfully there were no imperfections anywhere on the car when they checked it over.

I had my whole car ceramic coated - over the factory ppf and it looks absolutely super

And I, like many others, am very fussy too. :ROFLMAO:
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Good to know, what colour is your car Peter?
 
Schuey said:
Good to know, what colour is your car Peter?
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Aventurine green with Aurum (gold wheels)

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Your OP suggests you have already chosen the factory option. I was merely suggesting an alternative route I would personally take.

Either way you will have exposed paintwork during transportation and PDI, so some after-market paint enhancement is likely in either case.

The factory option is currently £1,340. Last month, I negotiated a deal with a local specialist for correction, ceramic coating AND front end PPF (Expel Ultimate) for a similar price, all inclusive. The film has a 10 year guarantee, but I suspect after a year or two, there won't be much joy to be had from PC or independent, but at least the local lad will be within shouting distance! [:D].

You now have 2 sides of the coin so are able to come to an informed final decision. [;)]
Regards,

Clive
 
Lancerlot said:
Your OP suggests you have already chosen the factory option. I was merely suggesting an alternative route I would personally take.

Either way you will have exposed paintwork during transportation and PDI, so some after-market paint enhancement is likely in either case.

The factory option is currently £1,340. Last month, I negotiated a deal with a local specialist for correction, ceramic coating AND front end PPF (Expel Ultimate) for a similar price, all inclusive. The film has a 10 year guarantee, but I suspect after a year or two, there won't be much joy to be had from PC or independent, but at least the local lad will be within shouting distance! [:D].

You now have 2 sides of the coin so are able to come to an informed final decision. [;)]
Regards,

Clive
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Thanks Clive, exactly the kind of information I'm looking for. I haven't ticked the option yet, and your reasons outlined above now make more sense. I just wanted more food for thought really, now that I have the other side to the coin as you put it, I'll start doing some research and speaking with local/recommended PPF installers. I'm not sure where you are based, but if you don't mind could you tell me who did this work for you, PM me if you prefer.

Many thanks.
 
Schuey said:
My understanding is that most minor swirls and scratches are caused during vehicle transportation to destination country and then further swirls added by the OPC when they clean and prepare the car for handover. My thinking is, if the PPF is applied at factory after the car has been built, then there should be minimal if any defects in the paintwork?
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That’s exactly why I asked the OPC not to clean the car other than power wash it prior to me checking it over and making payment. Whenever a car dealership cleans a car they inadvertently scratch the car with swirls marks and sometimes use sponges which are just plastic. I then had the car collected in a covered trailer and delivered to the detailer to carry to the work, which took a week. On completion it was trailered to my home.
 
Yes, I did the same. PC's like to have a showroom full of nice shiny motor cars, so they weren't particularly keen on having a manky piece of kit in there prior to the handover, complete with its factory transportation coverings, But to be fair, they did comply and the untouched paintwork turned out to be in good order with just 3 or 4 very minor blemishes to correct prior to the ceramic coating.

Jas - I live in North Devon, so quite a step for many, but suggest you Google Gtechniq authorised detailers in your area (they're quite common nowadays) and obtain some quotations. A good one will keep your car for up to 3 days for curing purposes. But I'm happy to introduce you to my man if you PM me.

Regards,

Clive


 
Thanks Clive, I think the closest ones to me are Staffordshire Detailing and they seem to have done quite a few 911s. Will give them a call soon and make some enquiries. Seems like you negotiated a fantastic price with your man though. ????
 
An image of mine following PPF to front, A post, front of roof to sunroof, mirrors, doors, door handles, sills, rear wheel arches (double) rear gloss black panel and a couple of mirror black bits inside, plus ceramic coating including wheels.
Mine was done by Onyx, West Bromwich
First class job, I ticked it at OPC and it was mentioned that they had a few issues with it.

They were spot on with the rear arches, see the second image, they take a bit of a battering.

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Thank you Steve. Lovely car and pictures. Pictures like this assure me of my colour choice of Gentian, as sometimes I think it might be a hard colour to maintain and then think about changing to something ‘safe’. Then I ask my wife and 8 year old daughter and they tell me to stick with Gentian! ??????
 
I had my 718 PPF'd and ceramic coated at Staffordshire car care. This was for a full front clip and rocker panels, Gyeon Duraflex ceramic coating, interior, glass plastics and wheels protected.

Total cost for the work was c.£2000 and the Gyeon PPF comes with an 'infinite' warranty as long as its checked by a Gyeon certified detailer, which Staffs are. The cost also includes a stage 1 machine polish.

Craig and Greg are great and you wont be disappointed with the service.

Here's mine being done

https://youtu.be/xnF7S3MZg3M

Dan
 
Scrounger said:
I had my 718 PPF'd and ceramic coated at Staffordshire car care. This was for a full front clip and rocker panels, Gyeon Duraflex ceramic coating, interior, glass plastics and wheels protected.

Total cost for the work was c.£2000 and the Gyeon PPF comes with an 'infinite' warranty as long as its checked by a Gyeon certified detailer, which Staffs are. The cost also includes a stage 1 machine polish.

Craig and Greg are great and you wont be disappointed with the service.

Here's mine being done

https://youtu.be/xnF7S3MZg3M

Dan
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Great info Dan, thanks for your post. Your car looks great and they do have a good reputation and seem to do a lot of work for Porsche Centre Wolverhampton.
 
Has anyone actually ordered or seen any factory fitted PPF? If so, what did you think of it? Is it glossy or more matt, self-healing etc.,? I'm considering ticking this optional extra and anyone's first-hand experience or comments about it would be most helpful.
Thanks, Jeff
 
I ordered the factory PPF, and I was very pleased with the quality too.

I had additional items covered as soon as I took delivery, and it looks exactly the same. They used Xpel PPF.

It is shiny and takes the ceramic coating well.

More than pleased how well my car is protected and the additional PPF saved my paintwork from serious stone damage.
 
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