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2020/08/03 16:25:17 (permalink)

Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK

i appreciate this is a first world problem.   I’ve been offered 2 cars a manual 4.0 GTS for immediate delivery good spec and decent cost to change.   Also been offered an immediate delivery 2.5 GTS PDK, bigger spec and slightly less cost to change.
 
i have a dilemma - I prefer PDK, but used to drive manual all the time....I like the power delivery on the 2.5 turbo with the high torque from low down, but the 6 cylinder sounds so nice (YouTube only).
 
Are there any specific pros and cons? Is the 2.5 discontinued and hence will depreciate significantly more if I went for it - could I run the 4.0 GTS with minimal depreciation over a 12 month period due to low volume production.
 
welcome any thoughts as my head is in a spin......(and yes appreciate it will be my car / choice etc)

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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/03 16:53:47 (permalink)
Paul,
 
As you say, definitely a first world problem, but nice to have the choice.
 
As far as the chassis, steering and other aspects of the cars are concerned I'm sure that there'll be no noticeable difference, but there will be a big difference between the powertrains: one has a 4-pot turbo engine with PDK and the other a N/A 6-pot where you have to stir the gears yourself. I doubt that you'll be able to find a GTS 4.0 demo car but I'm sure that there are plenty of CS 2.5T PDK demo cars around that you can sample to see it fits your requirements. I think your decision very much depends upon your planned usage and preferences in terms of engine power and torque delivery and the sound of the engine and whether or not you can live with a manual 'box.
 
The 2.5T GTS is now a run-out car so I'm sure that you can expect a big discount, and I reckon that GTS 4.0 residual values will hold up better long term given the more positive press comments compared with that of the turbo car (5-star vs 4-star), and the PDK transmission will very soon become an option on the ROW cars so it may well be worth waiting a month or so to see what develops.
 
My personal choice would definitely be the GTS 4.0 manual, but my own requirements and preferences I'm sure will be very different from your own.
 
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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/03 23:20:05 (permalink)
Chassis etc in both cars is astonishingly good, but as said the difference in the way the engine and gearbox drive is huge.
If you want a brutally effective power train that delivers the goods as easily as possible then the 2.5 with PDK is the one to go for. Incredibly easy to go very fast, overtaking ability is just there on tap. 
But...that huge early torque just doesn’t feel like a sports car engine. The massive early thrust is impressive but then the power dissent feel as if it builds in the way that you expect a sports car to do.  It is a bit like driving a very good big diesel. 
The NA engine with a manual box will require a bit more input and planning, but the powe curve is satisfying exponential p, it just builds and builds as the revs increase. Don’t think that it is torque light, not as massive as the turbo but it is still a big engine with plenty of low speed grunt. The throttle response, as you would expect is much keener than the turbo.
Both are stunning cars, which one is for you depends upon your preferences  and how you like to drive. 

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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/04 09:46:59 (permalink)
I would take the GTS4.0 - more desirable and resale value will be far higher than the 2.5 Turbo.  I have just come from a string of PDK to a manual, loving it!
 
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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/04 10:03:01 (permalink)
My choice would be wait 6 months for PDK 4.0 
but it will depreciate a fair bit I think,just not as much as a 2.5 which will drop like a stone in porsche terms I feel.

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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/08 08:33:35 (permalink)
Thanks for everyones input and comments.   I was off yesterday so was out in my 2.0 F4T with PDK.   I’ve decided, I don’t want to live without that - the choice is then 2.5 now or 4.0 later.....the torque delivery is doing it for me and more suited to how I want to drive the car and as mentioned.....just trying to get to right deal on the new car which has a great spec, knowing that prices on the 2.5 might take a little hit.......
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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/09 11:07:18 (permalink)
Well done in going against the flow if you choose to go the turbo route Paul, and if you really like the feel of a turbo engine over N/A that will be a great decision.
 
I wouldn't think that Porsche are making any more turbo CGTSs so it's just a case of finding a suitable spec for an in-stock car and negotiating a good price, which you should be able to do given the circumstances. Who knows where residuals are going to end up in the current financial climate, so best just to drive and enjoy while you can?
 
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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/09 13:52:55 (permalink)
Thanks Jeff - I have secured a very good spec brand new 2.5 GTS with PDK and pick it up next Saturday.   Really looking forward to it - literally has everything on it I would want including 18 way seats, GTS interior, folding mirrors, dimming mirrors, parking sensors and camera, climate, heated seats, smokers package, cruise control, multifunction heated wheel, LED headlights with pdls plus, light design package, Bose.....and I’m sure I’ve missed a few bits too....pleased with the deal we managed to arrive at.
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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/10 11:05:01 (permalink)
Thats spec sounds amazing!  I hoep you can enjoy many miles of happy motoring.
 


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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/10 19:33:30 (permalink)
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Thats spec sounds amazing!  I hoep you can enjoy many miles of happy motoring.
 


Peter - thanks for the kind words.   I couldn’t have asked for more and the dealer has been superb.   It’s interesting how experiences differ from dealership to dealership.
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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/10 20:09:24 (permalink)
Paul,
 
You have made the right choice..........I'll say no more!
 
Enjoy your 2.5t Cayman GTS.
 
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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/10 20:24:36 (permalink)
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Paul,
 
You have made the right choice..........I'll say no more!
 
Enjoy your 2.5t Cayman GTS.
 
Brian


Thank you Brian - it took me a while to make the decision, but thank you for your input and advice in the process.
Cheers Paul
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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/13 12:01:23 (permalink)
IMHO, there is no right or wrong decision here, what matters is that you are happy and it sound like you very much are.
 
Fun times ahead and thoroughly enjoy your soon-to-be 'new car day'.
 
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Re: Immediate delivery 4.0 GTS vs immediate delivery 2.5 GTS with PDK 2020/08/15 21:31:09 (permalink)
Picked up today. 200 miles each way....but worth every one...lovely car and massive change from a base, no option 2.0 F4T PDK....the 18 way memory seats are just lovely.... :)
 
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