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2019/12/06 14:38:20 (permalink)

964 values

Hi all, 
 
Just wondering what people think of the current values of 964's
 
Quick history,  I have owned three over the years, C2, C4 and C2 cab,  all manual. 
 
Considering another C2 manual coupe.    either a do it upper which needs full paint,   or a mint car,     
 
Have been watching the adds on autotrader, pistonheads, and ebay,   nice low mileage cars, £50k ish to £65k for really low miles,  but nothing selling,   
Higher miles cars, sort of 100k miles upwards,  at the high £30k to £50k again havent seen anything selling for ages. 
 
They were selling well about 2years ago around the £40k to £50k mark,   looks like market has dropped, and dealers or private sellers still looking for top prices but no-one biting.  
 
Interested to hear of cars people have bought or sold and what prices are current.      
 
regards
Scott.  
 

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    stephenryan
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    Re: 964 values 2019/12/12 09:07:51 (permalink)
    Always interesting to see what the market is doing but like everyone, I told my wife that I'll never sell my next car... 
     
    I found my current 964 C2 Targa manual with 150k miles and a new Mot from a reputable Porsche specialist dealer who knew I was looking and I had it PPI'd. It had very good and complete history but it needed a top end and suspension rebuild so I figured that was priced in and it was only on their website for a week or so.  On the PPI it was considered to be undamaged, had tiny amount of non structural rust and needed brake lines, etc so I bought it for £32k in January 2019. 
     
    The price allowed me to change it along the lines that I wanted and not pay for someone else mods but unless you can do some work yourself this route is like to be more expensive. I find the obsession with mileage absurd, at 30 years, the condition is way more important - I'd always rather buy a higher mileage car in great condition than a low mileage unserviced car and have to replace everything due to lack of use. Just my opinion! 
     
    Interested to hear what other cars that have sold for recently. 
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    Re: 964 values 2019/12/18 13:20:14 (permalink)
    You can take a look at this on 993
    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-cars/used-car-buying-guide-porsche-911-993 
     
    it has recent prices for 993 and 964 is typically a little higher than these so this should give a reasonable idea.
     
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    Re: 964 values 2019/12/18 13:30:11 (permalink)
    Stephenjk
    You can take a look at this on 993
    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-cars/used-car-buying-guide-porsche-911-993 
     
    it has recent prices for 993 and 964 is typically a little higher than these so this should give a reasonable idea.
     




    Not so long ago it was very much the other way round.
     

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    Re: 964 values 2019/12/18 14:11:59 (permalink)
    When was that?  Last 4 years when i’ve been looking 964 have been more expensive then 993.
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    Re: 964 values 2019/12/18 22:06:26 (permalink)
    My observations … 964 had a hot phase of being the must have aircooled and overtook 993 but not by much. They have both fallen back somewhat and seem similar these days for good cars but the reality is the market has been very slow through 2019 so it is impossible to tell exactly where prices are. Dealers are not buying stock of any aircooled at the moment and has been the same for the last 9 months unless an absolute bargin. Those not needing to sell are sitting on their cars waiting to see what 2020 brings. 
    post edited by Ian_McLeod - 2019/12/18 22:07:31

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    Re: 964 values 2019/12/19 12:04:50 (permalink)
    Ian_McLeod
    My observations … 964 had a hot phase of being the must have aircooled and overtook 993 but not by much. They have both fallen back somewhat and seem similar these days for good cars but the reality is the market has been very slow through 2019 so it is impossible to tell exactly where prices are. Dealers are not buying stock of any aircooled at the moment and has been the same for the last 9 months unless an absolute bargin. Those not needing to sell are sitting on their cars waiting to see what 2020 brings. 




    Agreed and it´s the same here in Germany.
     
    Anyway, the best value you can find in a 964 is driving it.
     
    Best,
     
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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/03 19:51:27 (permalink)
    Happy New Year to all 😊👍
    Have just listed my 1990 964 C2 manual for sale on the site...
    Any info required on the car please call or email me...
    Cheers / Regards Phil
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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/04 08:51:48 (permalink)
    Sorry, we can't find the page you're looking for.

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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/06 13:32:11 (permalink)
    I just received back my PCGB valuation, which I requested just before Xmas, so a decent turnaround considering all the Bank Holidays.
     
    They form asks what valuation I was looking for, which, in the light of the current market was probably a few K over the top but I did not want to reduce it from the previous level, and it was agreed.  I have used this as a basis for my agreed value insurance valuation.

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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/07 09:12:22 (permalink)
    It looks an absolute bargain compared to the OPC Swindon 964 C4 advertised.
    Good luck with the sale.
     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdxNIof26E&t=5s
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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/07 09:26:03 (permalink)
    That swindon car is a 993 and it is a 70th anniversary so hard to compare.  year is 1996 and hp is 285 so at least they have that right for a 993.  Bit worrying they mislabelled though!
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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/07 14:07:29 (permalink)
    Cheers,
    However no one is beating a path to my door as yet
    Only time will tell and prices are always negotiable...
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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/07 14:09:38 (permalink)
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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/07 20:13:14 (permalink)
    Stephenjk
    That swindon car is a 993 and it is a 70th anniversary so hard to compare.  year is 1996 and hp is 285 so at least they have that right for a 993.  Bit worrying they mislabelled though!





    I just saw the similar car link ;     "911 (964) Carrera 4 £111,950"     without clicking on it.
     
    You would think that a Porsche OPC posting an ad on a PCGB site would manage to get a few details correct? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdxNIof26E&t=5s
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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/07 21:49:35 (permalink)
    clubsport
     
    You would think that a Porsche OPC posting an ad on a PCGB site would manage to get a few details correct? 




    No, you wouldn´t.

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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/07 21:56:58 (permalink)
    clubsport
    Stephenjk
    That swindon car is a 993 and it is a 70th anniversary so hard to compare.  year is 1996 and hp is 285 so at least they have that right for a 993.  Bit worrying they mislabelled though!





    I just saw the similar car link ;     "911 (964) Carrera 4 £111,950"     without clicking on it.
     
    You would think that a Porsche OPC posting an ad on a PCGB site would manage to get a few details correct? 


    Well Paul, they are usually better than Hexagon Classic ...
     
    Happy New Year !
     
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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/08 07:33:20 (permalink)
    964C2MAN
    Cheers,
    However no one is beating a path to my door as yet
    Only time will tell and prices are always negotiable...



    In my limited experience of selling cars time of year is important.  I've found it harder to sell cars in Jan and Feb, i just think less people are looking then.  Also where have you listed it?  I'd imagine you need to list on autotrader or pistonheads too.  Those are my go to places to look for 964s, i rarely check the Porsche club site.
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    Re: 964 values 2020/01/08 09:44:22 (permalink)
    I'll list the car on cars and classic and Pistonheads as we approach spring if it does not sell via the club... Just wanted to give any PCGB members who may be interested in the car first bite of the cherry
    Worst case scenario would be that it does not sell and i have to keep it
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