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What does "towbar preparation" mean?

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2019/07/24 17:22:15 (permalink)

What does "towbar preparation" mean?

We are in the market thinking of changing our Cayenne Turbo for a newer Cayenne or a Macan diesel.  We need a towbar for a small trailer.
 
I know on the Cayenne the twobar is electric, is this the same on early Macans?  Seen some advertised with "Towbar preparation" - have asked the local Porsche dealer what this actually means but he didnt know and hasnt come back to me.
 
Any info and advice appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Rob


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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2019/07/24 18:09:30 (permalink)
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I think it means the wiring etc is in place. I swapped my Cayenne SE Hybrid last year for a Macan GTS and had an electrically operated tow ball fitted as part of the deal. Works exactly like the Cayenne one did.
It tows well too, a twin axle car trailer with my 1964 Volvo P1800 rally car on.
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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2019/07/24 18:24:00 (permalink)
When I bought a Q3 the “tow bar preparation” included additional wiring as mentioned above as well as an uprated cooling system - that’s what I was led to believe anyway.

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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2019/08/22 16:35:47 (permalink)
Not all Cayennes had electrically operated towbars, some were removeable, and a very neat fitment but a bit of a pain if regularly swapped around. The electric one is much better though an expensive option. Retrofitting is really expensive. 

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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2019/10/22 19:55:25 (permalink)
Phil
 
Any idea what was involved in the retrofit?  I'm considering the same.  Many thanks

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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2019/10/22 22:02:23 (permalink)
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I’m not sure of the detailed work involved as the job was carried out by Porsche Leicester as part of the supply of the car, sorry, but I guess they could tell you.
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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2020/01/06 15:31:21 (permalink)
Phil,
 
Out of interest sake what sort mpg are you getting with your macan GTS while towing, I previously had a cayenne S Diesel which was a fantastic tow car and stupidly went back to a landcover which I have lasted 8 months with and going to change again. Currently looking at the Cayenne S just with being petrol a little concerned about MPG.
 
On another note one of the things I would be towing is our 1967 Volvo Amazon 123GT rally car along with other not so interesting things in a box trailer for business.
 
Thanks
Jonathan
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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2020/01/06 16:02:27 (permalink)
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I haven't actually checked so can't really say what the MPG is - I know it very much depends on whether I stick to a reasonably "relaxed" drive or whether I am late - use the right peddle a lot and it drops considerably - and don't mention going up the big hill on the M62!  I have towed at 90+ on occasions, obviously not on UK highways, and always found the trailer (open car trailer/box trailer or indeed caravan many years ago) to be completely stable - although all were double axles and all were well within the towing capacity of the tow vehicle. 
I guess if you're not too aggressive then low 20's would be achievable - I don't do much more than that solo with the Macan - but I do love the performance!
Where do you use the Volvo - if you do any of the HRCR Clubman's rounds come and say hello - I'm doing all but the Ilkley this year hopefully.
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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2020/01/06 21:06:51 (permalink)
Phil,
 
Likewise with my old diesel s cayenne i drover over to Hannover with a large box trailer and was 90+mph most of the way once on European motorways with trailer solid as a rock. I wouldn't have a single axle trailer now have had a wheel come of a boat trailer in the past and the twin axle was the lifesaver in that situation.
 
I was thinking I would probably be looking around 18mpg with a mix of driving with the trailer hopefully not too much less.
 
We bought the Amazon to do the historic monte carlo a couple of years ago and have used on a few targa rallies but sat idle the last year due to work commitments and my other hobby which is motocross. My plan is to get the Volvo rebuilt this year and log booked for doing some proper stage rallies (have done stuff before in modern cars but got fed up with spending as much money on it). Might come along to spectate at one of the HRCR rounds this year with plan to do a few next year. If I do will come along and say hello.
 
Picture of my previous cayenne with one of our other toys on the trailer, you can just see the amazon in the background.
 
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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2020/01/06 21:45:40 (permalink)
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Phil,
 
Likewise with my old diesel s cayenne i drover over to Hannover with a large box trailer and was 90+mph most of the way once on European motorways with trailer solid as a rock. I wouldn't have a single axle trailer now have had a wheel come of a boat trailer in the past and the twin axle was the lifesaver in that situation.
 
I was thinking I would probably be looking around 18mpg with a mix of driving with the trailer hopefully not too much less.
 
We bought the Amazon to do the historic monte carlo a couple of years ago and have used on a few targa rallies but sat idle the last year due to work commitments and my other hobby which is motocross. My plan is to get the Volvo rebuilt this year and log booked for doing some proper stage rallies (have done stuff before in modern cars but got fed up with spending as much money on it). Might come along to spectate at one of the HRCR rounds this year with plan to do a few next year. If I do will come along and say hello.
 
Picture of my previous cayenne with one of our other toys on the trailer, you can just see the amazon in the background.
 
Jonathan




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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2020/01/06 21:49:06 (permalink)
Well what are the chances - I have a 1966 Midget but only as a fun road car - used by me and my labrador when the sun is shining!
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Re: What does "towbar preparation" mean? 2020/01/06 22:16:27 (permalink)
What are the chances indeed. Our one is 67 with a 1275 engine taken up to 1345 and running on twin Webber's. My father rallied one that he had new in 1967 and loved the car so we built this a few years ago which we take on the road a little and do some days at our local sprint circuit up here Kames. Such a fun little car to drive always puts a smile on your face.
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