Turbo developments ...

[glamdring]

Guys, I need your advice

OPC Cambridge yesterday offered me this demo 61-plate Turbo PDK for £115,000. The car is Nov 11 registered and has done 400 miles, plus the 40 miles I stuck on it yesterday. Spec includes:

Basalt Black
Black Leather
VTS
Park Assist
Telephone module
iPod
Heated Seats
Sport Design Steering Wheel
PDK
Sport Chrono + Dynamic Engine Mounts
Adaptive seats
Door finishers in leather
Porsche Torque Vectoring
Cruise
Nav
Lid of storage bin with Porsche crest
Rear wiper
Dynamic cornering lights
Rear section of centre console in leather
PDK gear selector surround in leather

So, pretty good spec if I'm not mistaken? It works out to a bit over £120k at list price.

This morning they have come back to me and offered it for basically £20k less - £95,000. The car is literally 10 days old and has done 440 miles, so basically brand-new.

The black really has grown on me a bit even overnight, and I am wondering if this really does represent a good deal for what is basically a new car. As you all have a bit more high-end experience than me I'd appreciate your comments and thoughts.

 

[SteveJC]

Matt
That car gives you everything you need and more, looks a very good spec, plus at that cost it's about the same as older second hand models.
Black is a great colour, especially when clean or really dirty, if you know what I mean.

Steve

 

[clarkes]

Be cheeky and offer them 99k - because the colour isn't perfect for you or whatever else you can think of as an excuse - that's what they do when you p-ex.

 

[garyw]

That does look a lovely drivers spec, with plenty of leather...[8D][8D] certainly a spec I'd like... cost wise seems to be on the money considering its at a OPC with all the advantages that brings.
I'm just off to Solihull to look at a Black one.. I'll let you know what they say. []

garyw

 

[Nick_USA]

ORIGINAL: garyw

That does look a lovely drivers spec, with plenty of leather...[8D][8D] certainly a spec I'd like... cost wise seems to be on the money considering its at a OPC with all the advantages that brings.
I'm just off to Solihull to look at a Black one.. I'll let you know what they say. []

garyw

I would be tempted to play hard ball and offer and 90-92K given the fact that all OPCs will want to shift all of their newer stock pre the launch of the 991, more so they do not want customers tempted by 'enhanced' 997 models whilst trying to push out the lesser powered similarly priced entry versions to the new range.

 

[maxtraeger]

Matt,

you are not missing much on this spec (only PCCB, GT seats and upgraded wheels) and Black is an excellent colour choice for the car. Original warranty is still on the car for 2 years and if they do not budge on price try to get an extension on the warranty like another 2 years included and/or a service whenever due. I think the price is already good value but obviously they need to shift stock which plays to your advantage.

Just as a comparison, I bought my November 2006 TT Gen1 with similar spec/colour (of course not the 2nd Gen additions like VTS, etc), PCCB brakes, frontal wrap protections up to doors, as a 1 owner car, with the 2-year used car warranty, new tyres, full service and 33K on the clock from OPC Hatfield in Nov 2010 for 63K which I thought was fair value at the time. Cheapest comparable car was available for 56K but did not have the full spec, warranty, etc... - so, in short for 2nd Gen demonstrator I think that is on the money if you can either reduce the price a bit further or get some goodies as suggested.

Good luck,
Max
TT997.1

Gone - 997C2S Black

 

[chrismouzou]

looks like a good deal to me black looks great the only problem with black is the stone chips do show on my gen1 tt when i sold it had loads of stone chips which shows more than other colours-the spec looks good i have pdk on my car great




chris

 

[markiii]

Matt

your a bad man, all this talk of new cars has me looking at GT3s

 

[tscaptain]

Matt, at £95k, 400 miles, 11 days old and that spec - go for it Mon Brave![]

 

[glamdring]

Hmm, fly in the ointment has just appeared though.

It's not £95k. It's £106k.

I am off to Leicester in the morning to check out a £95k car that they have - 6 months and 9k miles older than the Cambridge demo - but £12k cheaper. Spec is absolutely identical to the Cambridge car which is rare. My only concern is that it's 6 months old and done 9k ... am wondering if perhaps it has been at Silverstone going round the handling circuit for the first 6 months of it's life, but a peep at the V5 ought to reveal the answer to that. Plus it will need a service in 10k miles whereas the Cambridge car won't need one for 20k miles, has new tyres, smells new, feels new etc etc ... so a bit of a quandary!! On balance I think the Leicester car actually makes more sense financially - saving of £12k for 9k miles is quite a lot.

 

[unclewinks]

Well done matt when are you buying it
black is a great colour

 

[unclewinks]

12k another ring perhaps

 

[tscaptain]

ORIGINAL: glamdring

Hmm, fly in the ointment has just appeared though.

It's not £95k. It's £106k.

I am off to Leicester in the morning to check out a £95k car that they have - 6 months and 9k miles older than the Cambridge demo - but £12k cheaper. Spec is absolutely identical to the Cambridge car which is rare. My only concern is that it's 6 months old and done 9k ... am wondering if perhaps it has been at Silverstone going round the handling circuit for the first 6 months of it's life, but a peep at the V5 ought to reveal the answer to that. Plus it will need a service in 10k miles whereas the Cambridge car won't need one for 20k miles, has new tyres, smells new, feels new etc etc ... so a bit of a quandary!! On balance I think the Leicester car actually makes more sense financially - saving of £12k for 9k miles is quite a lot.

I think I would take a look at the Leicester car, go back to Cambridge tell them you've found and identical car, albeit with a few miles on it, and offer them £100k. £20k off list for a car with no miles would be my preference over a car with 9k in 6 months. Good fun, innit?!![]

 

[grover]

My last turbo was black and a great looking car, grey and silver best for looking good when a bit grubby, my current White one is even harder to clean but doesn't show chip marks like the black one....go for it....just shows how much value falls away from new, like my once new turbo s.....now a mere shadow in value terms of it's former self...hasnt changed it's speed though!

 

[glamdring]

I know there isn't any more to come with the Cambridge car; I have tried everything today, for example:

"chuck in the paint protection"
No, we can't
"okay, chunk in half the paint protection"
No, we can't
"chuck me in an iphone case" (£50!)
No, we can't

Honestly, as an ex car salesman (for Porsche!) I think I have tried every trick in the book and there isn't any more to come off. So, it's going to be £106k or £94k for the Leicester car.

 

[unclewinks]

Either one Matt you won't regret it

 

[okellyt]

Matt

Either car works - Black is a great colour and it looks great dirty.......[:-]

There aren't many black gen 2 turbo's active on the register so it'll be distinctive.

Spec is bang on - central tunnel and console looks a bit cheap int he TT in base plastic form so a bit of extra leather and a crest is nice.

I would suggest it depends upon how many miles you'll do. If you'll do a lot the 400 mile £106k model would be a better bet. If not so much, assuming the same spec, the £12k savings comes into tis own.

BUT - if you do get a Turbo, drive it, the Gen 2 is not designed to sit around in a garage for months unused, they are more likely to go wrong that way.

 

[glamdring]

so you think that even at £106k the Cambridge car is still a good deal? Basically at the press of a button it's a Turbo S without the PCCB and the RS wheels - and I prefer the standard Turbo wheels a bit anyway. Of course there is a 2000-mile black Turbo S for £109k elsewhere ... [&:]

 

[unclewinks]

All these decisions Matt
quite stressful times[]

 

[glamdring]

you're not wrong there Paul. decision will be made by midday tomorrow anyway, and either way the new motor will be present for it's first PCGB Xmas run I reckon Off to Vegas on Weds (with Ted!) so ought to give plenty of time for the car to be prepped, and then I fancy picking either up on the way back from Heathrow...