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this isnt a blatant advert, but whats mine worth?

j4mou

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Ive got mine advertised on here and ebay at the minute, 1986 944 lux in garnet red, a stack of people watching it but no offers? whats likely to be the best price ile get for it? the sills are perfect, the mechanicals are perfect, its had the belts done, its got new tyres, full mot no advisories and 6 months tax? even had it waxoiled, I honestly thought it would walk out of the door at £3250. what should I realistically be asking for to get a sale? if it starts with a 1 I give up.
 
People may be worried by the interior, as the only inside shots are of the dash, really. You could reassure people with a lot more shots of the front and rear seats, boot carpet and blind, and some shots of what's under the boot carpet i.e. spare wheel, tools, jack, condition of boot floor.
 
ok cheers mate, on fleabay there are only 12 pictures though, but ile see if I can put some on the actual advert via photobucket.

what do you think in regards to the price?

James :)
 
Put it this way, if it has a good interior, and if I were looking for a Lux, then I would be happy to come to look at it knowing the price you are looking for.
 
the interior isnt perfect therees a hole in the drivers bolster, should I get this repaired first?

James
 
Yes-if you want to get that money. It sounds at the top of the price range when compared to others on the market.
 
But looking at others on the market, I haven't seen any others even mention the sills yet we all know it's a relevant issue.
 
There wil lalways be folk who say it looks well worth the money, and I'm sure it does. Any good 944 'looks' worth 10,000 to me but anyone actually buy it for the 3,000 mark ?

Only a real enthusiast looking for a 'really nice' example pays 3,000 for a lux these days.

A very well known member of this forum had a really lovely and low miles Guards Red car ( sqaure dash though) for sale at that sort of money and it certainly didnt fly out of the door by any means. I'm not sure if its sold or not as the ads still on P.H but an E-Bay auction is shown ended.

I have seen your car ad as I watch them all, I'm even genuinely looking for another 944 to buy as I type [;)]
I think price is exactly why it hasnt had any offers. Plus fair comment re the knackered seat top money car with knackered seat doent really go.

I love that colour by the way ! and always have , to my mind the car is worth 500 extra just for the colour :)

Best of luck.

Mas
 
as someone in the market, whats a realistic price, as is?

Vaughn has agreed to sort the seat for £85, so if I can find the money I will probably get that done, but I have just spent my savings on the car to get it sorted and getting things past the boss is difficult lol.

Im not desperate to sell it though, I dont need the money or anything I just fancy an m3 or an slk cab for summer if it ever comes, and maybe a 968 after that...
 

ORIGINAL: j4mou

as someone in the market, whats a realistic price, as is?

Vaughn has agreed to sort the seat for £85, so if I can find the money I will probably get that done, but I have just spent my savings on the car to get it sorted and getting things past the boss is difficult lol.

Im not desperate to sell it though, I dont need the money or anything I just fancy an m3 or an slk cab for summer if it ever comes, and maybe a 968 after that...

Please don't read this as criticism, or personal. It's just a direct opinion on what you've said! [:)]

You're selling a Lux for about double what you could pay for a running half-decent one, and four times the cost of an MOT-failure scrapper. You're talking about buying an M3 or an SLK. But you don't have £85 to make the interior perfect? I'm being deliberately harsh here, but how would you view a seller like that?

I'd send anyone to a car like yours over most out there, and I pointed an enquiry to it today. But, I think you need to look at the market here, rather than the car, however painful it is. A 944 Lux for over £3K has to be exceptional; an £85 repair might sound trivial, but in the eyes of a buyer it's a sign that the car's been scrimped on by the seller. People wanting a lowly Lux for the same money as the S2 or Turbo that looks so shiny in the Pistonheads advert will be few and far between, and likely to know their stuff. They will probably want a car that's near-perfect, as they'll be wanting to drag it out occasionally for concourse events, rather than the type of people looking for a cheap shed they can run in to the ground.

It's a bit like the cars you see advertised as "it's not running at the moment, but my mechanic tells me it only needs a sensor for £20 and it'll be like new". Fix the little things if you want to get a premium price is my advice; you've spent money on major work and it would be a shame to lose hundreds off the price for the sake of a bit of trim. Don't forget you could buy a decent passenger seat and swap the backs as an alternative to patching the seat. [:)]
 

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty


ORIGINAL: j4mou

as someone in the market, whats a realistic price, as is?

Vaughn has agreed to sort the seat for £85, so if I can find the money I will probably get that done, but I have just spent my savings on the car to get it sorted and getting things past the boss is difficult lol.

Im not desperate to sell it though, I dont need the money or anything I just fancy an m3 or an slk cab for summer if it ever comes, and maybe a 968 after that...

Please don't read this as criticism, or personal. It's just a direct opinion on what you've said! [:)]

You're selling a Lux for about double what you could pay for a running half-decent one, and four times the cost of an MOT-failure scrapper. You're talking about buying an M3 or an SLK. But you don't have £85 to make the interior perfect? I'm being deliberately harsh here, but how would you view a seller like that?

I'd send anyone to a car like yours over most out there, and I pointed an enquiry to it today. But, I think you need to look at the market here, rather than the car, however painful it is. A 944 Lux for over £3K has to be exceptional; an £85 repair might sound trivial, but in the eyes of a buyer it's a sign that the car's been scrimped on by the seller. People wanting a lowly Lux for the same money as the S2 or Turbo that looks so shiny in the Pistonheads advert will be few and far between, and likely to know their stuff. They will probably want a car that's near-perfect, as they'll be wanting to drag it out occasionally for concourse events, rather than the type of people looking for a cheap shed they can run in to the ground.

It's a bit like the cars you see advertised as "it's not running at the moment, but my mechanic tells me it only needs a sensor for £20 and it'll be like new". Fix the little things if you want to get a premium price is my advice; you've spent money on major work and it would be a shame to lose hundreds off the price for the sake of a bit of trim. Don't forget you could buy a decent passenger seat and swap the backs as an alternative to patching the seat. [:)]

Totally agree with Paul here - if theres bits need doing its worth getting them done - as you say so many ads 'only needs X done - Im told is a minor job' ... people either assume its hiding something (which a lot are..), or just wonder why you wouldnt just get it done prior to selling ? Lots if cars that say 'only needs X for the MOT' - so why havent they bothered to get a new MOT ??

Lots of cars out there too - 944's are not rare and not many people looking for concours cars yet (for another few years ) - I got my top condition S2 for not too much more than you are asking ...

 
just seen this very early car on ebay too.. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-944-Classic-Car-1983-Early-Model-Genuine-85000-miles-only-HEY-120Y-/320909002623


good condition but again pretty strong money (and for gods sake why do people insist on putting 'puts a grin on your face' !)
 
No mention of sills on the advert...

Mine hasnt been scrimped on, ive just spent nearly £2000 on it, the only thing it needs is the drivers seat needs to be patched, hardley the end of the world, and a quick search of my posts on here shows ive been actively trying to get it sorted.

hows the sills on your s2? [;)]

 

ORIGINAL: j4mou

No mention of sills on the advert...

Mine hasnt been scrimped on, ive just spent nearly £2000 on it, the only thing it needs is the drivers seat needs to be patched, hardley the end of the world, and a quick search of my posts on here shows ive been actively trying to get it sorted.

hows the sills on your s2? [;)]

sorry wasnt meant to be having a go at your car - it does look very nice, but there just seems to be a lot of competition out there, and it seems half the battle is getting people interested enough to actually come and see the car ...
 
wasnt having a go, I asked for opinions.

contacting Vaughn this morning to arrange dropping the seat of to be repaired, ile re advertise when its sorted.

Cheers for the replies.



 
This issue of sills...I think we all understand that on a 20 year old car, unless it's lived in a heated garage and never been used in the wet, they will either need doing or will have been done at some time.

6 years ago my S2 looked OK, passed an independent inspection, and came with a previous invoice for some work on the sills. Turned out that it had just had a quick dab of filler and a blow over, so within 2 years I was paying to have it done properly. Cost c£1300 but worth it...no sign of the rust returning! Yet.

Good luck with your sale...and I agree with Paul, get the seat fixed.
 
If you have invested good money in your car and therefore think it is worth the extra over the average lux then I think you will have to be prepared to wait for the right buyer to appreciate the differences. The trouble is with the car priced significantly more than most out there you wont get the initial interest you are looking for. Most 944 enthusiasts will have spent £2000+ on their cars because cars of this age require some investment for continued use, whether you get some of that back at resale will depend on what work has been done and to what standard.



Edd

 

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