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I have started this thread as opposed to adding to John's post regarding the run out this weekend.
It is with a heavy heart that I'm writing this but as certain comments regarding my actions on the April 1st run are now out in the public domain for everybody to see I feel very strongly that I need to set some facts straight.
Since the post that Mark put up regarding his problems with R3 and especially his sentence about my incident, I have received a number of calls and emails regarding what actually happened.
I will try and keep this brief but the devil is in the detail, so to speak.
We had the April 1st run out, I hit a pothole on a road that was chosen as our preferred route to Otterburn. This 'huge rut in the road' as the council described it destroyed my tyre. To say I was annoyed is an understatement and I apologise to anyone who was party to my rant at the road side but I could see a potential bill for thousands and a whole load of trouble that I just didn't need. Fortunately David Chapman was in our group and had a space saver wheel so I managed to limp back home under my own steam!
By the time I got home I had expected to have received a call or text from Greg or Deb, just out of courtesy. 'are you home okay' 'is your car badly damaged' 'if you need any help call us' you know the sort of thing you expect in a club that is so member orientated. Well by 6 pm I had not heard a peep from anyone. So I checked the web site and there were all the platitudes coming in about what a wonderful day everyone had and how great it was, still no mention about my incident, so as you can imagine I felt slightly aggrieved and made my post about the day and how I felt that taking us down that route was ridiculous, something which I still stand by.
Well within 10 minutes of making my post I received, what I can only describe as an abusive call from Greg Harm.
The call went something like this:
Me: Hello
Greg: I've seen the post you've made about the run today and I'm not happy about it, why didn't you call me before posting it?
Me: Well I'm sorry if you don't like it Greg but if you'd bothered to call me to see if I was okay or got home safely I wouldn't have posted it.
Greg: Well if you learnt to drive your car properly I wouldn't have to!
Me: Call ended.
This wasn't said in jest and I heard a different Greg on the end of the phone to the one I listen to at the meetings.
Then a few posts later Greg then posts how, 'As with every event we organise, we welcome all feedback, it enables us to offer our members better experiences' well my feedback wasn't appreciated at all and to phone a member in the way that he did who hit a massive rut in the road, which was completely unavoidable as it was 8ft long and 3ft across and damaged his car, to me is disgraceful.
Anyway after sleeping on things and after a few members had called me I thought that maybe I should write an email to Greg. It was conciliatory in it's content, I didn't apologise but I did say that maybe tempers were frayed and things were said that shouldn't have been. I said that I would rather sort the matter out like this than air my views on the forum. I said that I wanted to sort matters out amicably as I was a regular attendee at meetings and had felt part of the club.
I then received a reply to my email the next day. The reply was not what I was expecting, in it Greg basically told me that he was an unpaid volunteer and that if I had any grievances with the way he spoke to me then I should take the matter up with Chris Seaward at PCGB directly.
I replied by saying thank you for that information I may do.
Needless to say I have NOT contacted PCGB, I have also kept pretty quiet about the phone call I received but what I wasn't expecting was for people to start snubbing me and turning their backs on me at events and also making snide remarks behind my back, you know who you are.
Then at another event, a couple of members mentioned what had happened with Mark and this of course led onto my incident. It turns out the story they've had makes no mention of abusive phone calls and conciliatory emails and now I have people thinking that I've been in touch with PCGB or I've been a 'snitch' something which I find extremely hurtful and I may add is defamation of my name and can only have come from one source.
Like all things in life certain problems can be solved quite easily, you apologise and we move on. I made an effort to rectify a problem but this was thrown back in my face. I have had no apology what so ever from Greg and I can imagine now that's even less likely.
The PCGB is supposed to be a recreational club with like minded people enjoying the cars that we own. Unfortunately both myself and others have seen that it has become far to personal, Deb & Greg you need to stop taking things so personally and then falling out with people because someone dares to question your organising of an event or a situation that occurs. If you'd taken the time to settle this matter amicably in the first week in April this post wouldn't be happening.
It is with a heavy heart that I'm writing this but as certain comments regarding my actions on the April 1st run are now out in the public domain for everybody to see I feel very strongly that I need to set some facts straight.
Since the post that Mark put up regarding his problems with R3 and especially his sentence about my incident, I have received a number of calls and emails regarding what actually happened.
I will try and keep this brief but the devil is in the detail, so to speak.
We had the April 1st run out, I hit a pothole on a road that was chosen as our preferred route to Otterburn. This 'huge rut in the road' as the council described it destroyed my tyre. To say I was annoyed is an understatement and I apologise to anyone who was party to my rant at the road side but I could see a potential bill for thousands and a whole load of trouble that I just didn't need. Fortunately David Chapman was in our group and had a space saver wheel so I managed to limp back home under my own steam!
By the time I got home I had expected to have received a call or text from Greg or Deb, just out of courtesy. 'are you home okay' 'is your car badly damaged' 'if you need any help call us' you know the sort of thing you expect in a club that is so member orientated. Well by 6 pm I had not heard a peep from anyone. So I checked the web site and there were all the platitudes coming in about what a wonderful day everyone had and how great it was, still no mention about my incident, so as you can imagine I felt slightly aggrieved and made my post about the day and how I felt that taking us down that route was ridiculous, something which I still stand by.
Well within 10 minutes of making my post I received, what I can only describe as an abusive call from Greg Harm.
The call went something like this:
Me: Hello
Greg: I've seen the post you've made about the run today and I'm not happy about it, why didn't you call me before posting it?
Me: Well I'm sorry if you don't like it Greg but if you'd bothered to call me to see if I was okay or got home safely I wouldn't have posted it.
Greg: Well if you learnt to drive your car properly I wouldn't have to!
Me: Call ended.
This wasn't said in jest and I heard a different Greg on the end of the phone to the one I listen to at the meetings.
Then a few posts later Greg then posts how, 'As with every event we organise, we welcome all feedback, it enables us to offer our members better experiences' well my feedback wasn't appreciated at all and to phone a member in the way that he did who hit a massive rut in the road, which was completely unavoidable as it was 8ft long and 3ft across and damaged his car, to me is disgraceful.
Anyway after sleeping on things and after a few members had called me I thought that maybe I should write an email to Greg. It was conciliatory in it's content, I didn't apologise but I did say that maybe tempers were frayed and things were said that shouldn't have been. I said that I would rather sort the matter out like this than air my views on the forum. I said that I wanted to sort matters out amicably as I was a regular attendee at meetings and had felt part of the club.
I then received a reply to my email the next day. The reply was not what I was expecting, in it Greg basically told me that he was an unpaid volunteer and that if I had any grievances with the way he spoke to me then I should take the matter up with Chris Seaward at PCGB directly.
I replied by saying thank you for that information I may do.
Needless to say I have NOT contacted PCGB, I have also kept pretty quiet about the phone call I received but what I wasn't expecting was for people to start snubbing me and turning their backs on me at events and also making snide remarks behind my back, you know who you are.
Then at another event, a couple of members mentioned what had happened with Mark and this of course led onto my incident. It turns out the story they've had makes no mention of abusive phone calls and conciliatory emails and now I have people thinking that I've been in touch with PCGB or I've been a 'snitch' something which I find extremely hurtful and I may add is defamation of my name and can only have come from one source.
Like all things in life certain problems can be solved quite easily, you apologise and we move on. I made an effort to rectify a problem but this was thrown back in my face. I have had no apology what so ever from Greg and I can imagine now that's even less likely.
The PCGB is supposed to be a recreational club with like minded people enjoying the cars that we own. Unfortunately both myself and others have seen that it has become far to personal, Deb & Greg you need to stop taking things so personally and then falling out with people because someone dares to question your organising of an event or a situation that occurs. If you'd taken the time to settle this matter amicably in the first week in April this post wouldn't be happening.
