teledials v cup
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andy watson
Moderator
Hi Dave,
The ride and handling will be awful, you will regret it and want to sell the car! Best thing would be to swap your Teledials for my D90's and you don't have to part with any money!
The ride and handling will be awful, you will regret it and want to sell the car! Best thing would be to swap your Teledials for my D90's and you don't have to part with any money!
ukmastiff
New member
It may be me but cup 1 , 2 or the dreaded later cups (yuk) ?, which wheels are you after.
I used to dislike teles and love the early cups ( still like them) then as my love for the original 944 turbo grew and totally changed my view towards Tele's.
All this proves is that its totally up to the individual. I dont think any 17" wheel with good tyres will give you a bad ride as such but for me proper deep dish turbo Tele's are proper classics just like our beloved early turbo cars. One things for sure if you dont want those turbo teles there will be a queue of folk to take them.
Best of luck whatever you do.
Mas
I used to dislike teles and love the early cups ( still like them) then as my love for the original 944 turbo grew and totally changed my view towards Tele's.
All this proves is that its totally up to the individual. I dont think any 17" wheel with good tyres will give you a bad ride as such but for me proper deep dish turbo Tele's are proper classics just like our beloved early turbo cars. One things for sure if you dont want those turbo teles there will be a queue of folk to take them.
Best of luck whatever you do.
Mas
ukmastiff
New member
You havnt said which 944 model either ? , i was advising on 16 to 17
now its 15 to 17 and im thinking you are considering putting them on a lux. Andys quite right in the ride will change i just dont think it will necessarily ruin it but horses for courses and all that.
My Mg has 18" wheels standard and im looking for some 'rare' 17" for winter or maybe keeps
Mas
now its 15 to 17 and im thinking you are considering putting them on a lux. Andys quite right in the ride will change i just dont think it will necessarily ruin it but horses for courses and all that.
My Mg has 18" wheels standard and im looking for some 'rare' 17" for winter or maybe keeps
Mas
Cost off the handling? This is a broad word used 2 often by people who prob haven't even ran larger or wider wheels.
I mean no offence 2 anyone. But unless your on a track you will hardly noticed the delayed pick up from heavyer wheels.
944 came stock with many differnt size tire width from 195/245 rear 195/225 front. With stiffer set ups as the sizes got larger. So the ride should get harder all round.
In terms off road use your deff notice the extra rubber and grip in corners then u would the ruined ride/ handing.
I ran 18" on my S 255 rear 225 front. Turbo S come stock 16" with 225 front 245 rear. On my S I found it very hard 2 brake traction with the large wheels. I put the 18" on my turbo and car felt more gripper and stable. Also with the larger wheels you get a wider track with I believe helps a lot.
17" are thought 2 be the sweet spot 4 wheel size on 944.
Unless your looking at lap times which is splitting seconds, then get the wheels u like.
I mean no offence 2 anyone. But unless your on a track you will hardly noticed the delayed pick up from heavyer wheels.
944 came stock with many differnt size tire width from 195/245 rear 195/225 front. With stiffer set ups as the sizes got larger. So the ride should get harder all round.
In terms off road use your deff notice the extra rubber and grip in corners then u would the ruined ride/ handing.
I ran 18" on my S 255 rear 225 front. Turbo S come stock 16" with 225 front 245 rear. On my S I found it very hard 2 brake traction with the large wheels. I put the 18" on my turbo and car felt more gripper and stable. Also with the larger wheels you get a wider track with I believe helps a lot.
17" are thought 2 be the sweet spot 4 wheel size on 944.
Unless your looking at lap times which is splitting seconds, then get the wheels u like.
TTM
Well-known member
On these cars I always noticed a significant difference in ride quality and swiftness between 16" and 17" wheels, and it didn't matter how fast I would drive.
For road use I see no reason to try anything larger than 16", even if I like the look of Cup 2s more than either the Club Sport or D90.
People who can't feel a difference probably run cars that need a major suspension overhaul [8|]
For road use I see no reason to try anything larger than 16", even if I like the look of Cup 2s more than either the Club Sport or D90.
People who can't feel a difference probably run cars that need a major suspension overhaul [8|]
Iv swapped between wheel sizes a lot, b4 and after I had my car reindex conner weighted and set up on gaz gold and fully poly bushed. Smaller profile side wall won't cushion as much as a larger one. But it has never ruined the handling. There's a lot off things un nessery 4 road use, cars capable off more then the speed limit e.c.t anything that can get you from a/b.
Every person Iv spoke 2 who runs or has had larger wheels on, have liked the results.
Every person Iv spoke 2 who runs or has had larger wheels on, have liked the results.
Of course, but lacedr personal prefence was discouraged by the fear off ruined handling. I'm just stating that the word ruined is a bit 2 heavy.
Iv put my 16" forge back on due 2 useable tread, and I didn't think ow wow, I didn't even noticed I had changed them from inside the car.
My sirugesstion would be if you got worn susspenion, which if its never been changed, then lower side profile will have a greater effect then if your set up is good, and may very well increase wear and tear on other parts. But not instantly going 2 cause death to them ethir
Iv put my 16" forge back on due 2 useable tread, and I didn't think ow wow, I didn't even noticed I had changed them from inside the car.
My sirugesstion would be if you got worn susspenion, which if its never been changed, then lower side profile will have a greater effect then if your set up is good, and may very well increase wear and tear on other parts. But not instantly going 2 cause death to them ethir
TTM
Well-known member
Perhaps you are lucky to drive on smooth surfaces then. On the demanding roads I use I felt the difference right away between both sizes, and yes the term "ruined" still corresponds pretty well to what I experienced. I apologise if that sounds exagerate to you, but to me it does not.
andy watson
Moderator
Er' as the wheel police are out.......... thought I better add my post was a joke, I was after the 16" Teledials but alas they are only 15"s
Joss Walker
New member
Andy must be the expert here, he ran what looked like 22 inch wheels for about 15 years
andy watson
Moderator
Well 18"s
I had no problems with running a larger wheel, and would suspect those that claim that there are have not tried a larger wheel wheel and most of the claims come from the Porsche "recommendation" not to use wheels larger than 17"
There is no doubt that the ride quality is compromised with the larger wheels, but the road holding / handling for normal road driving there is no difference.
If the road surface quality was better then I would doubt that much difference would be noticed, it is much the same as lowering or stiffening the suspension on rubbish roads the ride can become crashy
Having changed back to 16"s the ride is a whole lot better, it is the look that is the problem and the lack of individuality.
But of course this is only my opinion!
I had no problems with running a larger wheel, and would suspect those that claim that there are have not tried a larger wheel wheel and most of the claims come from the Porsche "recommendation" not to use wheels larger than 17"
There is no doubt that the ride quality is compromised with the larger wheels, but the road holding / handling for normal road driving there is no difference.
If the road surface quality was better then I would doubt that much difference would be noticed, it is much the same as lowering or stiffening the suspension on rubbish roads the ride can become crashy
Having changed back to 16"s the ride is a whole lot better, it is the look that is the problem and the lack of individuality.
But of course this is only my opinion!
Joss Walker
New member
So you're still being harsh on these - I think that they look good with the paint job that you have.
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