Rust for as far as the eye can see...
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deafasapost
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and considering it was touted as a really good one etc....
robwright
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I also seem to remember offers of writing buyers guides for people who were interested in buying one. Anyway as already said Simon you are definitely in the right place with the right people to help you..............mostly. I for one would have been screwed without the help of the guys on this forum. We must have a meet sometime soon. In fact let's all have a meet at my house tomorrow and have a put Rob's turbo back together party [
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Sorry Rob would love to (yes really!) but I'm off to Rockingham tomorrow.
Where are those sill pics taken then? Through the venys in the door shuts??ORIGINAL: simdel1
Well, the honeymoon is over.
I started off tracing the root case of the leak in the footwell. That seems to be a combination of aftermarket alarm fitting and blu-tac bodgery. I'll add more details on that in my 'footwell leak' thread.
While I was in the battery tray I noticed that some of the under seal was a bit 'squidgy'. So I started to probe a bit with a screw driver. After an hour of chiseling away loose under seal and silicone sealant (!) this is what I was left with...
Not much there is solid. In fact, the inner wheel arch is paper thin and I managed to push my screw driver right through the underseal on the other side. Also, the bottom left corner of that image is completely rotten. Is there anything directly under neath that hole that i need to think about protecting before the rain comes again?
Based on this revelation I decided to check what else I'd managed to miss whilst viewing the car.
Passenger sill:
Not too bad. Nothing abit of bilt-hamber cavity wax stuff wont keep at bay for a while
Drivers sill:
How the hell did i miss this!!!! This looks pretty terminal to me.
I dread to think what the rest of the car is like under the under seal now.
My plan was to get a solid car that I could start restoring in a few years time. It looks like the restoration needs to start now before the car is a cumbled orange mass.
How much I've spent already and how much I'm going to have to spend in the near future hasn't quite sunk in yet...
MIne all looks very different in there, as it is the cab with the double floor, but touch wood looks pretty mint in there.
BUt not sure if I am looking at the right place...
ORIGINAL: j4mou
very unusually quiet, at least you now know why she seemed to know so much about sill work [
I also seem to remember someone on here, now who could it have been?, telling us that an early square-dash car won't rust, unlike those vulgar late-model rotboxes..
944 man
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I said that they dont rust anything like as much as the later cars: an opinion shared by Paul Higginson, a specialist who has dismantled hundreds of these cars over the last twenty years (and Alasdair too, from my conversation with him a few weeks ago). The engines were superior too.....
Anyway; it was the OPs problem which prompted me to start the 'Sill repairs' thread. I intend to keep bumping it until as many people as possible have listed their prices and experiences. Knowing that Jeremy was able to have rough sills and wings made good and painted for £600 hopefully will reassure the OP that a good repair can be had for a realistic sum.
Simon
Anyway; it was the OPs problem which prompted me to start the 'Sill repairs' thread. I intend to keep bumping it until as many people as possible have listed their prices and experiences. Knowing that Jeremy was able to have rough sills and wings made good and painted for £600 hopefully will reassure the OP that a good repair can be had for a realistic sum.
Simon
robwright
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Simon I was joking but if you are up for it then I never turn down a bit of free labour and I'm sure there might be a four pack in it for you or more [
] It wouild give me a chance to have a look at your old girl as well. Andy says he'll probably be able to pop over as well. Shame his is still not running. Three 944s outside the house would be a first. Let me know what you want to do mate my number is in the signature.
912UK
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I have not read all your posts but anything to do with metal work is quite easy but there are a few rules
only look at one section at a time.. if you look at the whole thing in one go it will over whelm you..
Cut out the old metal and make cardboard templates.
take you time, just do a section at a time..
it all comes togeather in the end and your be chuffed you done it well..
DO NOT PANIC !!
http://912register.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=774&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
only look at one section at a time.. if you look at the whole thing in one go it will over whelm you..
Cut out the old metal and make cardboard templates.
take you time, just do a section at a time..
it all comes togeather in the end and your be chuffed you done it well..
DO NOT PANIC !!
http://912register.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=774&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
912UK
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I am self taught and You only have to look at the skills of the guys out in places like Mexico or Brazil I forget which one Mexico I think..
where they have little if any tools other than hammer, chisels and a washing machine case or an old sign and they make body panels that you look at it amazement how the hell did they do it??
and that's the trick you don't need all these fancy tools, just some basic tools and look around for shapes, to use.
I have a gas cylinder that is perfect for bending metal to make sills for my 356.
I have an old tree stump that is slightly hollowed out and over time has hardened with all the hammering..
Large Alen key with another part welded on to it and slightly rounded is my stretcher..
1st class leather seat cover ( 1st Great western trains thanks for that BTW I got it from their bin and was alowed to ) cut out made 3 sand bags sewn up on my sewing machine.. Drive way sand from B&Q works a treat I have only bought 3 body work hammers ok 2 are snap on but hey I saved alot with my home made tools..
from there, cardboard and pens.. mark every thing out, measure , take photo's and your away..
I make floor pan sections for 911/12s and you can't see the difference.. all i use is 2" box section, a blunt chiesel ( ground flat ish ) and a hammer. Ribbed floor in 15mins.. My Dad was saying why are you doing this just buy it ( says the biggest NON spender in the world ) 10 mins later of hammering I had a 2" x 1" floor section and he was just speachless ( makes a change )
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I have LOADS more to learn but I have made some right nasty bits for my cars that even people like Barry have commented about it looks good so if he says so I must have learnt some thing over the years..
that job you see there is ALL!!!! metal no filler even in that corner it's weld and smoothed about with a demel, after that photo I then polished it with my disc I have that also shrinks some of the smaller dinks and dents with heat and then it shrinks it.. amazing disc I got from the states and a body work guy.. sounds mad but it works..
where they have little if any tools other than hammer, chisels and a washing machine case or an old sign and they make body panels that you look at it amazement how the hell did they do it??
and that's the trick you don't need all these fancy tools, just some basic tools and look around for shapes, to use.
I have a gas cylinder that is perfect for bending metal to make sills for my 356.
I have an old tree stump that is slightly hollowed out and over time has hardened with all the hammering..
Large Alen key with another part welded on to it and slightly rounded is my stretcher..
1st class leather seat cover ( 1st Great western trains thanks for that BTW I got it from their bin and was alowed to ) cut out made 3 sand bags sewn up on my sewing machine.. Drive way sand from B&Q works a treat I have only bought 3 body work hammers ok 2 are snap on but hey I saved alot with my home made tools..
from there, cardboard and pens.. mark every thing out, measure , take photo's and your away..
I make floor pan sections for 911/12s and you can't see the difference.. all i use is 2" box section, a blunt chiesel ( ground flat ish ) and a hammer. Ribbed floor in 15mins.. My Dad was saying why are you doing this just buy it ( says the biggest NON spender in the world ) 10 mins later of hammering I had a 2" x 1" floor section and he was just speachless ( makes a change )
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]I have LOADS more to learn but I have made some right nasty bits for my cars that even people like Barry have commented about it looks good so if he says so I must have learnt some thing over the years..
that job you see there is ALL!!!! metal no filler even in that corner it's weld and smoothed about with a demel, after that photo I then polished it with my disc I have that also shrinks some of the smaller dinks and dents with heat and then it shrinks it.. amazing disc I got from the states and a body work guy.. sounds mad but it works..
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