Helen Goff
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are these as good as thay claim.?
is it worth me investing in one?
if so which one?
is it worth me investing in one?
if so which one?
RADAR DETECTORS.
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John Miles
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John Miles
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NOTHING will detect a lasar in time for you to take avoiding action. I know, a lasar got me from 310 metres away! The copper lines you up and touches the trigger for 1 sec. You are done!
Geodesy has all the mobile cameras at roadworks etc. plumbed in.
If everyone one know a Gatso is coming up, why do they catch loads of people?
J
Mike Butler
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The new ' combo' detectors give the best of both (although they are still two units). I don' t use my Origin Blue I at the moment because I can' t find somewhere suitable to fix it longterm! It was very useful on my last trip to Wales, but my radar detector is always fixed to the windscreen. But I agree - in 90% of cases, by the time your laser detector has gone off it' s too late (unless you have a laser diffuser fitted)....
Brian Halling
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Go on then Mike, tell us what a laser diffuser is. Sounds highly illegal to me.
Guest
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I believe fitting something specifically for the purpose of jamming the signal is not legal, although it will be one of those legal-to-buy, legal-to-own, illegal to use things.
However, I did read about some of the cruise control systems having the same effect. The adaptive ones put out beams ahead of them to detect the car in front, so that they can then match the speed. It saves you constantly tinkering with the speed setting. I remember seeing trials where they ran cars only a few feet apart at 100 or so. The commercial systems don' tlet you get quite so close tghough.
Anyway, the transmissions from these confuse the radar detectors, since instead of looking for the echo from their signal, they get hit with a wall of noise.
There was a case in Europe, Belgium or somewhere similar I think, and the person proved they weren' t trying to jam the signal. I think they had a Nissan, but I' m not sure.
I also read that the Police will be very suspicious if they point there various toys at you and get no reading. They will most likely pull you over to have a look at what you are up to.
Unless Porsche start offering Stealth Bomber paint as an option, I think you are a little stuck.
Rgds, Stuart.
However, I did read about some of the cruise control systems having the same effect. The adaptive ones put out beams ahead of them to detect the car in front, so that they can then match the speed. It saves you constantly tinkering with the speed setting. I remember seeing trials where they ran cars only a few feet apart at 100 or so. The commercial systems don' tlet you get quite so close tghough.
Anyway, the transmissions from these confuse the radar detectors, since instead of looking for the echo from their signal, they get hit with a wall of noise.
There was a case in Europe, Belgium or somewhere similar I think, and the person proved they weren' t trying to jam the signal. I think they had a Nissan, but I' m not sure.
I also read that the Police will be very suspicious if they point there various toys at you and get no reading. They will most likely pull you over to have a look at what you are up to.
Unless Porsche start offering Stealth Bomber paint as an option, I think you are a little stuck.
Rgds, Stuart.
Guest
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Forgot to mention - someone told me some garage door openers have the same effect, not sure if this is true. In any case you would have to connect it to the cigarette lighter and have it on all the time.
Then you could open all the doors as you drove down the street.
Rgds, Stuart.
Then you could open all the doors as you drove down the street.
Rgds, Stuart.
Guest
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Just bought the Origin Blue i. Its great; works on GPS locations and updated from a modem. Does not cover mobile traps but you gotta ask yourself if you should be speeding anyway!. Prevents those annoying 33 in a 30 MPH police cash machines from snapping you and also warns about truvelo and specs too (new type of average speed camera).
www.originbluei.com
www.l8shop.net
www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk
www.originbluei.com
www.l8shop.net
www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk
Andy Tims
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A while ago I organised a " bulk" buy of 5 Road Angels with Laser detect from GPS Megastores at a pretty good price via the Boxster yahoo forum.
I' ve not had the laser detect trigger yet & hope it stays that way, but the detection of static cameras is really good. Much better than the old radar detector I had. The unit doesn' t know if the camera has film in etc. but it' s no bad thing to slow down anyway. I also have the bike kit & use the Road Angel on my bike when going somewhere I' m not familiar with only, as the need to use an earpiece to here the warning is a bit of a pain. The laser detect won' t work on the bike either as the electrics are now where near as well suppressed as on a car & cause it to false alarm all the time.
Antiflash / camera shy rear plates are also an option.
Andy
I' ve not had the laser detect trigger yet & hope it stays that way, but the detection of static cameras is really good. Much better than the old radar detector I had. The unit doesn' t know if the camera has film in etc. but it' s no bad thing to slow down anyway. I also have the bike kit & use the Road Angel on my bike when going somewhere I' m not familiar with only, as the need to use an earpiece to here the warning is a bit of a pain. The laser detect won' t work on the bike either as the electrics are now where near as well suppressed as on a car & cause it to false alarm all the time.
Antiflash / camera shy rear plates are also an option.
Andy
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Everything I have seen and read indicates no and no.
They may make it more difficult to read the number, so might help for something like congestion charging, but I believe with the image enhancement options they have, you can' t really fool them.
I have seen one thing that will work, it is a LCD that fits over the number plate and can be turned opaque (i.e. black) at the flick of a switch. It is not terribly discrete and is illegal, but would actually work.
The alternative that seems to be gathering popularity is just to use false plates. Although they are/have made it harder to get hold of plates, I don' t think this will stop people. I am not sure what will happen to prevent this. I guess there will be a push to fit cars with transponders so they can monitor you (however, someone will hack or jam this).
Rgds, Stuart.
Mr968
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Hello everyone,
I run the Radar Detector Shop that is mentioned above, I' d just like to add my 2 penny worth to the discussion.
Various things have been mentioned so I will try to answer some of the questions and doubts.
The Bel 990 is an old model, the new one is the Bel 550, this has been out now for about 2 years. If budget will allow try to steer away from older models as the warranty will be with the retailer only and not the official UK Bel distributor, so if the retailer goes under so does your warranty.
The Geodesy is a good GPS speedtrap locator but lacks in features and is a little outdated against some of the new models like the Road Angel etc. I still use a Geodesy in my 968 though, it was the only GPS device available 2 years ago and was the best thing since sliced bread at the time, it remains the smallest GPS device and so as mentioned above is neat and tidy if you want to fit it discreetly.
GPS devices on their own do not pick up mobile speedtraps which are now usually laser gun operated. However the Road Angel now has it as a standard plug in attachment and the Snooper S6-R has it as an option.
With laser you have 2 chances, slim and none, seriously though, if you can pick up some reflections or scatter from a car in front then you have a slim chance, or if Mr Officer is taking 2 readings then you may have time to slow down (depending on speed). This is a bit hit and miss and is a definite risk. My advice is don' t be the one leading the third lane, if you feel that you may be at risk look at a diffuser. By the way, laser guns have telescopic sights, so he' ll see you before you see him.
I run the Radar Detector Shop that is mentioned above, I' d just like to add my 2 penny worth to the discussion.
Various things have been mentioned so I will try to answer some of the questions and doubts.
The Bel 990 is an old model, the new one is the Bel 550, this has been out now for about 2 years. If budget will allow try to steer away from older models as the warranty will be with the retailer only and not the official UK Bel distributor, so if the retailer goes under so does your warranty.
The Geodesy is a good GPS speedtrap locator but lacks in features and is a little outdated against some of the new models like the Road Angel etc. I still use a Geodesy in my 968 though, it was the only GPS device available 2 years ago and was the best thing since sliced bread at the time, it remains the smallest GPS device and so as mentioned above is neat and tidy if you want to fit it discreetly.
GPS devices on their own do not pick up mobile speedtraps which are now usually laser gun operated. However the Road Angel now has it as a standard plug in attachment and the Snooper S6-R has it as an option.
With laser you have 2 chances, slim and none, seriously though, if you can pick up some reflections or scatter from a car in front then you have a slim chance, or if Mr Officer is taking 2 readings then you may have time to slow down (depending on speed). This is a bit hit and miss and is a definite risk. My advice is don' t be the one leading the third lane, if you feel that you may be at risk look at a diffuser. By the way, laser guns have telescopic sights, so he' ll see you before you see him.
Mr968
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Hi,
the Rover 75 plate is about twice the size of a standard one in area so you would need to add plastic to it rather than chop it up. It covers the area below the boot and between the tail lights. It' s a bit big and ugly really so I' m not sure why they do it.
As it' s more area to reflect off I' m not sure if it would make any beneficial difference to being nabbed by a radar camera or a laser gun. Ian, I' m not suggesting for a minute that you should try this, but I know another PCGB member who up until 6 months ago had a 930 model and his front number plate was angled down almost 45% to the road. Only good for SPECS and Truvelo though because of the angle. Again I' m not suggesting that this would be a desirable or legal thing to do.
the Rover 75 plate is about twice the size of a standard one in area so you would need to add plastic to it rather than chop it up. It covers the area below the boot and between the tail lights. It' s a bit big and ugly really so I' m not sure why they do it.
As it' s more area to reflect off I' m not sure if it would make any beneficial difference to being nabbed by a radar camera or a laser gun. Ian, I' m not suggesting for a minute that you should try this, but I know another PCGB member who up until 6 months ago had a 930 model and his front number plate was angled down almost 45% to the road. Only good for SPECS and Truvelo though because of the angle. Again I' m not suggesting that this would be a desirable or legal thing to do.
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