It's a wind up yeah ?

[TISPKJ]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/194714.htm

Now you are having a laugh ............... even the steering wheels on the wrong side []

 

[chfs911]

Good value if you consider a 996RS is this price.

 

[TISPKJ]

Good value !!! []

 

[chfs911]

Paul I bet if you put the £60 K in your pension scheme and I put my £60k in the RS in 20 years I would be sailing my yaught around the Med. on the proceeds of the RS sale.

You on the other hand could buy an annuity worth £3000-5000/annum for life!

Not to mention the years of polishing fun I would get! ;O)

 

[chfs911]

Must get work started on Das Buch 2 to bump up the values further!

 

[CAB]

Can only assume that the sudden surge in prices in the last 2 -3 months is due to the summer.....

You can still get much better deals in europe. Think a lot of collectors are trying to make the most of this mini bubble

reserve the right to change my tune when i get mine!!

 

[ChrisW]

Isn't it the same old 4800 mile RS rewound ?

 

[Stewart H]

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

Isn't it the same old 4800 mile RS rewound ?

The very same

 

[carreraboy]

This car is also on H&S..... does it have red seat backs? Right money if it's completely correct IMHO....[8D]

 

[RSR]

ORIGINAL: CAB

Can only assume that the sudden surge in prices in the last 2 -3 months is due to the summer.....

You can still get much better deals in europe. Think a lot of collectors are trying to make the most of this mini bubble

reserve the right to change my tune when i get mine!!

Surge in prices is due to the difficulty in getting a very very nice one. People are willing to pay for nice correct cars. The 964 RS market currently experiences one of the biggest spread in prices of most Porsches. They are 15 years old and a lot of them are showing it. Some cars out there really are as they left the factory others are absolutely desperate for a full body and mechanical restoration.

I wouldn't suggest better deals can be had in europe. Several cars this year have gone back to Germany where they sell for more money than they did here.

Don't surf the web and see the words 964 RS, a mileage and a price and make any comparison with anything. You MUST view. You have to start looking at cars before you realise what type of car you are happy with. Then you'll know what budget you need.

 

[CAB]

so what do you think a reasonable RS should be going for these days - when i say reasonable i mean tidy interior and exterior and sound mechnically. would appreciate your views and if required your definition of what you think resonable is.

Talking about a standard light weight.

thanks

ps - am i only one who thinks prices have shot up in the last 3 months???

 

[ChrisW]

I think that RSR is far better qualified than any of us to comment on this, and my own experience would support this.

Values in Europe have increased by around Euro 6000, nice cars are becoming scarcer -- partly because the reduction in values resulted in a lot of cars being treated as consumables without receiving the care they also needed, to their overall detriment. Recovering from this is a very expensive process --- and does affect their originality.

I did also ask the question, what should now be the effect on it's value, of a reshelled car ? --- the Matitime blue Clubsport (M003) currently on this forum.

Certainly expectations have risen --- and who now would wish to sell their car for £35k ? But they were around in the Spring.

Whatever happened to the maritime M001 Lightweight which was advertised at £45k with non standard but Cup1 look 18" wheels ? It doesn't now look so expensive !

Look also at the prices being asked by dealers --- will good LHD cars sell at £48k ? Is a ropey 180Km car worth £34k (could make a great track car) ?

And finally, in absolute terms, how do they drive ? I drove my RHD car to work and back today --- took the long way round (as usual), and had just as much (if not more) than I do in my GT3 MkII --- all B and C roads. I am not exaggerating. I am not bragging about cars. I am simply expressing how I felt. So, what are they worth ?

 

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: CAB

so what do you think a reasonable RS should be going for these days - when i say reasonable i mean tidy interior and exterior and sound mechnically. would appreciate your views and if required your definition of what you think resonable is.

Talking about a standard light weight.

thanks

ps - am i only one who thinks prices have shot up in the last 3 months???

There has been good appreciaton on the 964RS for the last eight/seven years when they were more or less at their bottom level they have nearly doubled in value from then. I recall a very nice example LHD lightweight was low £20's now nearer £40K, prices have certainly risen sharply in the last 9 months with the biggest jump in the last 3 months as there is a massive demand and little supply, particularly in Europe where they are more expensive.

A very very nice lightweight LHD original as described is certainly now £45K these are among the best examples, original panel paint car with low klms. Work backwards from there. £35K should buy something reasonable but be prepared to pay nearer £40. Colour also holds a premium. The more unusual colour will command a bit more...the exceptions are the real garage queens low mileage museum pieces £60K for one is not unheard off these are found in Europe and are quoted round the Euro 100,000 basically the new price.

So to answer your question £35-£40K but be quick, no other 911 comes close for total driver involvement....[]

 

[CAB]

So to answer your question £35-£40K but be quick, no other 911 comes close for total driver involvement....

glad to hear i am not too far off the mark - was expecting to pay c £35k...... the budget only ever goes north ;-)

 

[George Elliott]

Cab, they are like everything, they are worth what you can get for them, and there are a couple of issues for the buyer who wants to pick one up:

1. they only made a small quantity
2. they cannot make more genuine ones. (but I reckon a 9M64rs would be a good car)
3. the few that remain are becoming fewer
4. the petrol heads who realise they are magic are getting more numerous
5. they remain a bullet-proof sportscar with character - not a delicate liability
6. to get one, customers are digging deeper

There are lots of reasons for each of the above market effects, - but it's just like every market - its changing.
Watch the prices of good 2wd 964 coupe's between now and 2010........

I'd say £50k is OK for a real good car, - but you can't have mine[8|]. They did cost over £60k in 1992[8|]

George

964rs
944T

Depreciation is Good if its negative[]

 

[CAB]

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

I think that RSR is far better qualified than any of us to comment on this, and my own experience would support this.

Values in Europe have increased by around Euro 6000, nice cars are becoming scarcer -- partly because the reduction in values resulted in a lot of cars being treated as consumables without receiving the care they also needed, to their overall detriment. Recovering from this is a very expensive process --- and does affect their originality.

I did also ask the question, what should now be the effect on it's value, of a reshelled car ? --- the Matitime blue Clubsport (M003) currently on this forum.

Certainly expectations have risen --- and who now would wish to sell their car for £35k ? But they were around in the Spring.

Whatever happened to the maritime M001 Lightweight which was advertised at £45k with non standard but Cup1 look 18" wheels ? It doesn't now look so expensive !

Look also at the prices being asked by dealers --- will good LHD cars sell at £48k ? Is a ropey 180Km car worth £34k (could make a great track car) ?

And finally, in absolute terms, how do they drive ? I drove my RHD car to work and back today --- took the long way round (as usual), and had just as much (if not more) than I do in my GT3  MkII --- all B and C roads. I am not exaggerating. I am not bragging about cars. I am simply expressing how I felt. So, what are they worth ?

i want to believe carrera boy but suspect ChrisW is closer to the mark....

 

[Ian964]

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

Whatever happened to the maritime M001 Lightweight which was advertised at £45k with non standard but Cup1 look 18" wheels ? It doesn't now look so expensive !

I went to see this car when it first came up for sale a couple of months ago - it's a standard RSL (M001 is a cup car) with 33K miles, all original panels but aftermarket wheels, couple of small rust spots, and full OPC history. A very nice car, but I baulked at the price then. Sent the seller an email last week - it's still for sale and he sounded like he might do a deal. I've found something else (fingers crossed!) otherwise I'd go for this.

 

[ChrisW]

ORIGINAL: Ian964

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

Whatever happened to the maritime M001 Lightweight which was advertised at £45k with non standard but Cup1 look 18" wheels ? It doesn't now look so expensive !

I went to see this car when it first came up for sale a couple of months ago - it's a standard RSL (M001 is a cup car) with 33K miles, all original panels but aftermarket wheels, couple of small rust spots, and full OPC history. A very nice car, but I baulked at the price then. Sent the seller an email last week - it's still for sale and he sounded like he might do a deal. I've found something else (fingers crossed!) otherwise I'd go for this.

Thanks for correcting me --- Ligtweight (Sport / Basic) is M002. Anybody interested, maybe Ian knows something you would like to ?

 

[jason]

The cars are becoming rarer and rarer....and some of us are even making our insurance companies pay INCREDIBLY large sums out just to keep them on the road (which you can do when you had an even higher agreed value!)....mine has been being put back together for nearly 4 months now....I could have had it quicker but I have the most anally retentive mechanics and bodyshop(both big 911 owners) in the world working on it to the extent that the bodyshop has gone over every single panel and part including those not affected in making it perfect...I think he wants to challenge the factory that they won't be able to tell what ever happened!

For this reason alone when it comes back I just don't think I could sell it....I've missed it like no other car...there is a ruddy mx5 taking up its space in the garage and it needs moving....some of you know I was toying with what to do having a track focussed GT3 as well......well one of my cars is going up for sale next month....AND ITS NOT THE RS!

Once bitten forever smitten.

 

[carreraboy]

I think we are all signing from the same hymn sheet.........