How much will this sell for????
- Thread starter sulzeruk
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Funny way to sell a unique car????
Sold as seen?????
Why not sell via the usual auction houses for unique cars?????
Call me a suspicious old fool..............but.
Sold as seen?????
Why not sell via the usual auction houses for unique cars?????
Call me a suspicious old fool..............but.
I met these guys once.One of them has an origional 73rs and an early S. They really know their old porsches.If you go on to ddk you will see a story all about it.I think it will go for at least £50k. The only place to get that restored is at the factory.anything less would be a waste.You would need an open check book to get it done right.
George Elliott
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Alasdair
thanks for posting. A totally fascinating story and genuine Barn find with DDK enthusiast research completed.
Matching Numbers, Prototype status, Nice colour Combo, The FIRST lwb 2.4mfi car and one of only a small number of recorded prototypes, the vast majority of which are lost. Jo Seifert provenance (not competition).
A very significant car, easy six figure value when completed if done right.
Cost to restore is likely to be £50k plus, but a good "pension fund" candidate.......
The supply of this calibre of car / originality / provenance is......minimal...supply and demand will make it highly valued.
The big auction houses are being affected by the internet too.....
Nice to see it found, and its going to be preserved by the look of it.[
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George
944t
thanks for posting. A totally fascinating story and genuine Barn find with DDK enthusiast research completed.
Matching Numbers, Prototype status, Nice colour Combo, The FIRST lwb 2.4mfi car and one of only a small number of recorded prototypes, the vast majority of which are lost. Jo Seifert provenance (not competition).
A very significant car, easy six figure value when completed if done right.
Cost to restore is likely to be £50k plus, but a good "pension fund" candidate.......
The supply of this calibre of car / originality / provenance is......minimal...supply and demand will make it highly valued.
The big auction houses are being affected by the internet too.....
Nice to see it found, and its going to be preserved by the look of it.[
]George
944t
I wondered why they put it on Ebay as well as they were all for restoring it. I think one of them had been trying to sell the RS to finance the project. They did a talk about finding it and proving what it is was at the local TIPEC meeting a couple of months back, It is the real deal and was converted by the factory to a right hand car in about 1970 with all the correct parts and a new RHD bulkhead.
I don't think it would be too expensive to restore as it is all complete with all the pucka original parts, just everything is a bit tired though. I would say about £30 K to restore myself, they quoted about £90k so obviously don't have much of a mechanical grasp at all. There is not 90 grands worth of car to restore there unless they were gold plating it and getting charged £100 plus VAT an hour! They were on about it needing all new outer panels and crap like that, why don't you repair what you have instead.
I suggested to them to restore it themselves and learn how to do some of the work themselves whilst getting the complex stuff outsourced to other companies. Everyone seems to think this restoration game is a complicated lark! People seem to be retiscent to learn nowadays.
Why would you get the factory to restore it Colin, the majority of the enjoyment for me is replicating all the shit factory finishes of the time.
At the end of the day, the car will be worth a lot of money and I am sure they will regret the sale as they won't get another and I am sure it will be squirreled away in some collection somewhere never to see the light of day again.
I think it will sell for between 75 and 100K in that condition.
Alasdair
I don't think it would be too expensive to restore as it is all complete with all the pucka original parts, just everything is a bit tired though. I would say about £30 K to restore myself, they quoted about £90k so obviously don't have much of a mechanical grasp at all. There is not 90 grands worth of car to restore there unless they were gold plating it and getting charged £100 plus VAT an hour! They were on about it needing all new outer panels and crap like that, why don't you repair what you have instead.
I suggested to them to restore it themselves and learn how to do some of the work themselves whilst getting the complex stuff outsourced to other companies. Everyone seems to think this restoration game is a complicated lark! People seem to be retiscent to learn nowadays.
Why would you get the factory to restore it Colin, the majority of the enjoyment for me is replicating all the shit factory finishes of the time.
At the end of the day, the car will be worth a lot of money and I am sure they will regret the sale as they won't get another and I am sure it will be squirreled away in some collection somewhere never to see the light of day again.
I think it will sell for between 75 and 100K in that condition.
Alasdair
George Elliott
New member
Alasdair, Alasdair, this is rocket science, highly skilled technicians, 13mm spanners, sometimes 17mm or even 19mm......
you need at least 6 months when it takes a week to fit a wing...
and MIG welding.....and the cost of 1.2mm mild steel sheet......and the time required to build a door......[][][]
And Lead loading.....
I wont go into drilling out spot welds because...well...it would perhaps take a day to find each one....
so, when the labour rate for such professional surgery is - £80/hr and the workrate is 1:20 relative to yours, it adds up eh?
When I was 16, I could change the Oil & Filter in my mum's Golf LD in 20 minutes and be back in the house for tea []
I agree, it will rarely see the light of day again, but good that it did not decompose in a barn in Scotland until scrap metal values improved, and then got crushed and sent to Korea to become a Hyundai...[]
George
944t
you need at least 6 months when it takes a week to fit a wing...
and MIG welding.....and the cost of 1.2mm mild steel sheet......and the time required to build a door......[
][][]And Lead loading.....
I wont go into drilling out spot welds because...well...it would perhaps take a day to find each one....
so, when the labour rate for such professional surgery is - £80/hr and the workrate is 1:20 relative to yours, it adds up eh?
When I was 16, I could change the Oil & Filter in my mum's Golf LD in 20 minutes and be back in the house for tea [
]I agree, it will rarely see the light of day again, but good that it did not decompose in a barn in Scotland until scrap metal values improved, and then got crushed and sent to Korea to become a Hyundai...[
]George
944t
Alisdair and George.I could restore this car and make a good job of it as well.
But I just feel that if the car is as rare as they say and is historically important then it should be treated to a factory restoration.That way it will be as it was the first time it left the factory.
I don't think it looks that bad.As you said it's all there it just needs everything cleaned refurbed and refitted.
But I just feel that if the car is as rare as they say and is historically important then it should be treated to a factory restoration.That way it will be as it was the first time it left the factory.
I don't think it looks that bad.As you said it's all there it just needs everything cleaned refurbed and refitted.
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