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[][][][][][][] Eureka[] Local motor factors has come up trumps, delivered 2 new CV kits to the garage late morning, got car back 3:30 pm early xmas Thanks guys for advice & suggestions happy xmas all Stephen PS can some one confirm the inners and outers are identical? the motor factor did'nt think so but my understanding is they are on the S2 and Turbo

 

[zcacogp]

Yes, inner and outer are identical. But they do only fit one way 'round - look at the way the old ones sit, and make sure the new one sits the same way. Glad to hear that the right result arrived! Enjoy driving it ... Oli.

 

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ORIGINAL: zcacogp Yes, inner and outer are identical. But they do only fit one way 'round - look at the way the old ones sit, and make sure the new one sits the same way. Glad to hear that the right result arrived! Enjoy driving it ... Oli.

Thanks Oli and i did enjoy driving it for about 7 miles[] Got home had dinner went to go do some shoping at 8:30 turned out my street 100 yards to round about turned left and heard a bang, steering pulled hard left Stopped 20 yrds after round about nearside wheel hard back against wing having folded the rear edge of the wheelarch back thought at first the ball joint had sheared but it turns out it has just pulled out [&o] The bolt seems tight, any one come across this before? its a bit worrying as i was lucky it happend at 15 mph and not 60 + mph Just been recoverd by AA the chaps had a 2 hr drive to get to me only to take me 600 yrds home dont you just love old porsches so no xmas for me [&o] really pissed at damage to wing as it was an ok wing the other side is the bad one

 

[sulzeruk]

The bolt clamps the bottom of the suspension to the pin of the bottom ball joint. There is also a relief on the pin so that the pin shouldn't be able to get past the bolt. Sounds very weird. Someone may have put an early wishbone with an 18mm pin in a later 20mm one so it is worth measuring the hole diameter and the pin to make sure they are the same. Let me know if you need any bits Steve as I have plenty here, Alasdair

 

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ORIGINAL: sulzeruk The bolt clamps the bottom of the suspension to the pin of the bottom ball joint. There is also a relief on the pin so that the pin shouldn't be able to get past the bolt. Sounds very weird. Someone may have put an early wishbone with an 18mm pin in a later 20mm one so it is worth measuring the hole diameter and the pin to make sure they are the same. Let me know if you need any bits Steve as I have plenty here, Alasdair

Thanks Alasdair Think on tuesday if weather ok will take it apart and measure things up will text you on tuesday merry xmas all

 

[Bob]

ORIGINAL: SUSIT thought at first the ball joint had sheared but it turns out it has just pulled out [&o]

Looks like you will have some redress to get the balljoint and the wing fixed by the garage who just changed it (whether he's a mate or not). Driving 7 miles on a new balljoint that fails is not a usual occurance

 

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ORIGINAL: Bob

ORIGINAL: SUSIT thought at first the ball joint had sheared but it turns out it has just pulled out [&o]

Looks like you will have some redress to get the balljoint and the wing fixed by the garage who just changed it (whether he's a mate or not). Driving 7 miles on a new balljoint that fails is not a usual occurance

Hi Bob The garage had just changed the CV joints and handbrake shoes, had'nt been near the front since 5 weeks ago when the did the wheel bearing but no need to touch the ball joint doing that. My car previously has had a hit on that corner according to the history i have (2002) and I am begining to suspect a poor repair job. will be replacing any parts I cant confirm are 100% I dont like to think what could have happend had the ball joint come off at speed

 

[zcacogp]

Flip me Steve - that's rough luck! I'm very sorry to hear that. Another bill hot on the heels of the last one, eh? As Alasdair said, the suspension uprights shouldn't be able to pull off the ball joint pins unless the bolt has entirely departed it's home. It sounds like something odd is going on, for sure.

ORIGINAL: SUSIT I dont like to think what could have happend had the ball joint come off at speed

Don't think about it. Just be grateful that it didn't. Hope that Christmas gets better for you from this point on ... Oli.

 

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ORIGINAL: zcacogp Flip me Steve - that's rough luck! I'm very sorry to hear that. Another bill hot on the heels of the last one, eh? As Alasdair said, the suspension uprights shouldn't be able to pull off the ball joint pins unless the bolt has entirely departed it's home. It sounds like something odd is going on, for sure.

ORIGINAL: SUSIT I dont like to think what could have happend had the ball joint come off at speed

Don't think about it. Just be grateful that it didn't. Hope that Christmas gets better for you from this point on ... Oli.

Thanks Oli you need to laugh or you would need a few therapy sessions Been bill after bill this year recond head, belts, gasket set ect ect, 2 new OEM Cams, water pump, handbrake cables, throttle cable, not to mention the Promax chip decat pipe and filter, (still not fitted chip) not to mention the CV joints, handbrake shoes, set of winter tyres The new discs, pads, stainless braded brake line, struts and springs, O/S wishbone, castor bushes, battery going to stop, it is getting depressing lol[8| Family and friends keep telling me to sell but yet to be beaten by a mechanical object[8|] and my 3 year old grandaughter would never forgive me[

 

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detached ball joint[&o]

 

[sulzeruk]

Steve, that looks like it is an 18mm balljoint. You say you renewed it, was it a secondhand item you put in? Alasdair

 

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Morning Alasdair No I renewed the off side this is the near side and i bought that one from Porsche shop at vast expence, did'nt even return the old one so IO have one to refurb for next time Think your likely to be correct Alasdair Looks like a very poor repair from its 2002 shunt, lucky or maybe not so lucly for me it lasted nine years before parting company! mind you they might have used and early upright as well! wont know for sure till we take it to bits and stick a micrometer across the hole and ball joint Looks straight forward to remove, any tips?

 

[sulzeruk]

2 17mm headed bolts holding the rear castor mount on and a 19mm nut and bolt holding the front on. Will be off in 5 minutes. Pop the wheel off and see if the ball joint pin will fit straight into the bottom of the hub. Any quesions, you have my number Steve, Alasdair

 

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ORIGINAL: sulzeruk 2 17mm headed bolts holding the rear castor mount on and a 19mm nut and bolt holding the front on. Will be off in 5 minutes. Pop the wheel off and see if the ball joint pin will fit straight into the bottom of the hub. Any quesions, you have my number Steve, Alasdair

its already in the hub Alasdair, the recovery chaps managed to get it in without removing the locking bolt, not a good sign, was quicker than putting the car on the flat bed and perhaps causing more damage

 

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Well wishbone off and as far as I can see and measure the ball joint pin and hole in the upright are 17mm! so reckon the car has had the wrong whishbone stub axle and strut fitted when repaired back in 2002 that begs the question why did the pin come out? The bolt holding it in I think is wrong, its a M8 and quite worn. Does anyone know what size bolt (in fact mine was a set screw not a bolt) should be fitted? As a precaution I am going to replace the upright and wishbone

 

[sulzeruk]

They are M10 Steve with a 15mm head if I remember correctly, Alasdair

 

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ORIGINAL: sulzeruk They are M10 Steve with a 15mm head if I remember correctly, Alasdair

Thanks for the parts today Alasdair, hope to get it back on road soon as, journey north misery, not seen so much snow in a long time, took 4.5 hrs instead of usual 2.5 So I can confirm some arse had fitted the wrong size, type and strength of retaining bolt on a safety critical part of the suspension. It it had let go a xx mph on my frequent blasts down the southern lochness road I dread to think of the result Happy New Year to all including the staff of ward 53 Glasgow Royal Infirmary who gave me a bed last night, my year can only get better lol

 

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Well back on 4 wheels at last, lets see how long for this time lol. Will need to get geometry re set and then all should be well, apart from the bent wing but that can wait till spring 2 1/2 hours to replace lower wishbone and upright, needed to swap calliper, hub and disc plus ABS sensor over, sensor took ages to remove. All went together easily enough