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Ash944

Ash944

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This is what it failed on

Offside rear parking brake recording little or no effort

Handbrake cable has wires broken

Nearside anti-roll bar has excessive play

Question now is how to repair it all what bushes shall I put on for one
I can get a cable from euro parts what one to get and how easy is it to fix
And could the offside parking brake be part of the same cable problem or
does it need opening up and freeing

I have ten working days to get this done
 
just get the oem ones for the anti-roll bar, I would try the indies for the cable as euro car sometimes sent out wrong part (happened to me twice in a month )

it maybe that the rear handbrake shoes just needed proper adjustment ( a known weak spot on the 944).

 
Can't say it often enough....

Try Porsche first for parts. They are often cheapest, and if you look up your part numbers on PET first it's going to be the right one!

If it's a part that has an alternative, look in the "alternative parts" faq. If the Porsche part is ridiculously expensive, then try the indies like Type 911. In fact, if you contact Matthew he'll advise exactly what you need and where to buy it.

GSF or Euro are not the experts to go to as a first point for parts. They might have the best deals on some bits, but unless you get a price from Porsche, and Porsche specialists, you have nothing to compare it to?
 
I will be phoneing my local Porsche centre tomorrow. I was just pricing from phone



Who's Matthew ????
 
I believe Matthew is a forum member here who works for Design 911 ;).

I would also try an OPC on the parts. I myself was slightly surprised on prices for a few things I ordered yesterday :).

Regarding the ARB bushes, I would try the OPC or go with Superflex items that Chris Witor sells (www.superflex.com) :).
 
He is actually Type911 I bet you're off his Christmas card list now :ROFLMAO:

www.type911.co.uk

A very decent supplier, I've had a couple of things off him in the past.

There are two cables in the handbrake system, one short, one long. I am guessing your offside one with little effort is due to the snap, If my memory serves me it is the short one that serves the offside but please double check before ordering
 
So today Iv phoned Porsche and ordered my stuff next is to fit them
Does anyone have any advice on removing old cable

And the bushes look fairly easy to do but could be very wrong
 
Bushes are easy to do. Well, not difficult may be a better way of say it; there is nothing technically difficult about it but you may have to use some brute force to get the new bushes on and everything back together.

Handbrake cable isn't a job I have ever done and I'm not sure I'd want to. Others with more experience will be along soon, but I think that getting the old cable out from the tube where it enters the cabin could be a bit of a fight. And make careful note of how it should all fit together before doing the job; there is the tricksy-looking two-way join thing under the rear seat which would be hard to re-do if you don't have a photo (or good diagram).


Oli.

ETA: Handbrake is something that causes me regular grief at MOT-time. As a precautionary measure, given you will be re-adjusting the rear drums when you put the new cable on then it's well worth running a wire brush on an electric drill 'round the inside of the drums, and over the surface of the pads. Because there is no motion between them then they rust, and the rust never wears off, and hence you get very poor handbrake figures. And lubricate everything generously while you are in there - a large tub of copper grease is your friend.
 
I used to use copper grease on brake parts, and eventually stopped. Maybe it was the miles that I was doing, but the grease seemed to congeal. So much so that the sliders on my 205 GTi started to semi seize up!

A specialist local to me suggested using ceramic brake grease. Initially I thought it was a gimmick, but it certainly seems to do the trick. Long lasting and it keeps things free. It is not too expensive either (I still have my small tube of it despite using it friends cars and many a brake service over the years). That's not to say I don't use Copper grease anywhere else (shaft of bolts to prevent them seizing inside bores etc.).

Damn, I meant Type 911. God knows where Design 911 came from!
 
Rear brake shoes are well fiddly as with all brake shoes but relatively simple. If you are doing this it may well be worth replacing them. Take the discs off first and have a look see. The cable on the other hand is a PITA. The cable connects from the handbrake to the nearside rear. The cable for the off side attaches to the centre of the nearside cable with a clip mechanism. The action of pulling on the nearside cable pulls on the offside one and hey presto both sides are actuated. It's possibly one of the most complicated mechanisms I have ever seen. I would be tempted to replace both cables. I got mine from ECP and where genuine Porsche parts with part number and everything. The cables are a massive PITA to do. In order to do it properly you will have to get the whole rear end on stands and the cable join is buried underneath the crossmember that braces the rear of the transmission tunnel, which you will need to remove. Make sure you put a whole day or more aside. When done as said setting up the shoes is crucial to good efficiency. This must be done blind through an inspection hole as there is no auto adjuster like on cars with rear brake for the main braking. There is an excellent guide on how to set them up on www.clarks-garage.com good luck mate.
 
So all parts are now ordered and this afternoon I got the ass end up on axel stands and removed the cable from handle taking as many pics a I could for reference when refitting
Now Iv looked online for the actual parking brake set up and I have a Haynes manual to help me along is there anything I should know before I take the wheel off to attach the wire at wheel end

As for the bushings Iv been told that if I put them in hot water it'll help me when pushing them in to the mounts or will a little bit of lube do the trick.

As Iv said before I'm new to this stonemason by trade lover of cars must be a early mid life crisis.
 
Washing up liquid will usually do the trick with the drop link bush. Use a vice if you have one to push the bush (no pun intended) into the ARB drop link. Use a trolley jack to jack the wishbone up to the ARB then you can locate the bushes that connect the drop link to the wishbone. If you dont have a vice you can wind the bush into the drop link with a nut and bolt.
 
Now Iv looked online for the actual parking brake set up and I have a Haynes manual to help me along is there anything I should know before I take the wheel off to attach the wire at wheel end
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Have you downloaded the PET pages, they show all the parts, and how they go together. Not always easy to recreate it in the car, with all the other bits around, but it gives a good guide. Clarks is, as always, a little bit better than Haynes! [&:]
 
Roll bar off and ready just can't get one of the outer bushes off bolt looks a tad rusty its guna have to be cut off

I started to take the drivers seat out so I can hook the handbrake back up got all screws out but one again
The inside front screw Ill try again tomorrow

Is the braket the wire goes threw and hooks up to the handle supposed to be flat mine is bent
 
The last MOT on my old girl ended up with rear discs, pads and shoes, both handbrake cables, both rear wheel bearings, rear brake pipes and a few other things on top. And just prior to selling it I've also put on new front pads.
 
Has been defeated by the dam cable. Booked into garage Monday
Anyone used the Porsche place in St Paul's bristol???
 
I feared that would be the case. Handbrake cable is not a job I'd like to tackle on a 944.

Hope it isn't an expensive one for you.


Oli.
 
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