clutch query

[Alpine]

hi all, not been on here for a while as I sold my S2 in May after 9 years of ownership. Getting withdrawal symptoms already and have been looking out for an earlier model 944 (2.5 or 2.7), with teledials. I've seen one that's done 105k miles but still on original clutch. I guess that I would need to budget for a clutch change, but how long could a clutch last, could there still be a lot of life left in it? cheers

 

[DarrylH]

My Lux is still on it's original clutch at 126k now

 

[pauljmcnulty]

Hi Phil, Plenty of clutches do well over that mileage. It could be mainly motorway miles, or a very careful owner. The problem is the rubber cushion breaking up, and that's going to be age-related as well as mileage. I guess the best thing is to budget for it, and hope it isn't needed?

 

[Diver944]

They rarely seem to wear out on N/A cars so see how it feels on the test drive first before worrying about it. I believe mine is original and I'm up to 213,000 miles now. Even if it was replaced just before I bought it at 88,000 miles in 1998 it's done 125,000 miles in my hands

 

[Alpine]

thanks for the replies, that's helpful. Paul - how did your Lux compare to your S2? do I recall you saying that the Lux felt a bit more nimble, and more enjoyable to drive as a result?

 

[pauljmcnulty]

Paul - how did your Lux compare to your S2? do I recall you saying that the Lux felt a bit more nimble, and more enjoyable to drive as a result?

Well, it gets me slated every time on here, and not surprisingly on PH, but yes. I'd stick my neck out and say a decent Lux, on very old and perished P6000s, is more fun than an S2 on the roads I drive most of the time. [&o] It's all about how fast you need to be going, how much you value a license, and I guess how responsible you are about the speeds you are sliding sideways through roundabouts? I love karting, and on an empty road that's the sort of car I enjoy. I suppose a 7 would be ideal, but I also need a roof, a boot etc. The S2 was criticised at launch for being over-tyred, and I'd agree. It's more a GT than a kart: extremely good at what it does, but I genuinely don't take it out on a Sunday morning for half an hour's hooning, which I would regularly do in the Lux. Enjoyable? I guess it's down to what you use it for. I've had to up the mileage on the S2 insurance, as it's driven more miles. That tends to be the long drives, it's a great A-road and motorway car. It's more civilised, feels a bit more solid and relaxed, but you do lose a lot of the low-grip, low-speed fun that the Lux had in spades. As I've said before, when the Subaru/Toyota coupe is down to £5K it'll really be a rival for a Lux. I think the S2 is better compared to a 3-series coupe with the 3.0 engine: more capable than you'll really need, or use, but also a great car to own.

 

[bmnelsc]

My 1991 S2 has 60k on it but it is not known if the clutch is original - measures 20mm (against the 18mm new - 34mm wear limit) - BUT - my release bearing is noisy and occasionally binds on the guide tube. So - even tho there is lots of disc left other parts are on the way out.

 

[Alpine]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

Paul - how did your Lux compare to your S2? do I recall you saying that the Lux felt a bit more nimble, and more enjoyable to drive as a result?

Well, it gets me slated every time on here, and not surprisingly on PH, but yes. I'd stick my neck out and say a decent Lux, on very old and perished P6000s, is more fun than an S2 on the roads I drive most of the time. [&o] It's all about how fast you need to be going, how much you value a license, and I guess how responsible you are about the speeds you are sliding sideways through roundabouts? I love karting, and on an empty road that's the sort of car I enjoy. I suppose a 7 would be ideal, but I also need a roof, a boot etc. The S2 was criticised at launch for being over-tyred, and I'd agree. It's more a GT than a kart: extremely good at what it does, but I genuinely don't take it out on a Sunday morning for half an hour's hooning, which I would regularly do in the Lux. Enjoyable? I guess it's down to what you use it for. I've had to up the mileage on the S2 insurance, as it's driven more miles. That tends to be the long drives, it's a great A-road and motorway car. It's more civilised, feels a bit more solid and relaxed, but you do lose a lot of the low-grip, low-speed fun that the Lux had in spades. As I've said before, when the Subaru/Toyota coupe is down to £5K it'll really be a rival for a Lux. I think the S2 is better compared to a 3-series coupe with the 3.0 engine: more capable than you'll really need, or use, but also a great car to own.

thanks Paul, I thought that was the case. I never really enjoyed my S2 round the backlanes, I think the ride was too hard to make it enjoyable. If I buy the Lux I have seen I'll post some pics on here. Cheers.