BC suspension?

[333pg333]

http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/

Has anyone heard or used this product before? I have a friend down here who is looking for something specific and this company looks as if they might be able to do it and not cost a bomb.

 

[ChasR]

A friend (or should I say two) had this suspension on his Honda S2000. When the geometry was correctly set it made for a lovely steer. When I went in the car it did not seem massively harsh etc. Around the 'Ring it was quite planted too.

Another thing to bear in mind is that BC make coilovers for the 968.

 

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: ChasR
Another thing to bear in mind is that BC make coilovers for the 968.

Yes. And I expect that 968 application will fit straight on late 944's. (This is a guess - can anyone confirm?)


Oli.

 

[333pg333]

I would be 99% sure they'd fit our cars Oli.
Any idea on costs for this brand? Entry, mid, upper?

 

[edh]

pretty cheap I think - iro £600 for an e36.

I've heard favourable things about them. (but happy with kw's [] )

 

[zcacogp]

They only list the V1 range for the 968, at £699 inc. VAT. Link here:

http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/applications/porsche-coilovers/porsche-968-92-95/v1-series-coilover-type-vt-1.html

If (as the website suggests) that also includes adjustable top mounts then it is a very good price indeed.


Oli.

 

[944 man]

ORIGINAL: 333pg333

I would be 99% sure they'd fit our cars Oli.
Any idea on costs for this brand? Entry, mid, upper?

Hello Pat. My understanding is that it is made in the same OEM factory which makes Tein dampers in Taiwan.

 

[944 man]

With regards to price, theyre now cheaper than Spax RSX118s and the price includes a top mount too. Ive had my eye on these for a couple of years but Im yet to meet anyone who has them fitted to a Frontrunner and I havent seen a proper picture of the topmount either.

 

[333pg333]

Thanks gents. My friend has a very modified turbo 968 but he's not so much into the suspension side of things. I've been trying to talk him around to getting some multi adjustable with remote reservoir coilovers for some time. He now has a former UK rally guy in his 'camp' and this guy is suggesting for now not to go to any great expense. He is adamant that he wants a coilover with the ride height threads going all the way to the bottom of the outer tube. Most brands cut off at some point and you wind up having to screw down your spring from the top if you wish to adj lower.
The UK guy wants full ride height adjustability from the threads to have total control without having to pre load the spring....well at least that's what I think he meant.

 

[bmnelsc]

ORIGINAL: 944 man

With regards to price, theyre now cheaper than Spax RSX118s and the price includes a top mount too. Ive had my eye on these for a couple of years but Im yet to meet anyone who has them fitted to a Frontrunner and I havent seen a proper picture of the topmount either.

About the top mount - reviewing the ad it says the kit comes with a rubber top (front) mount (I read as non adjustable) - so it may not be as good as the Porsche one (recall they added a steel insert in the molded part of the top mount to stiffen it up for the later turbo and S2s) but even at that - this looks like a great deal....

 

[colin944]

looks good !!!!!! much better price than the others. Who is going to buy a set and let the rest of us know if they are any good?

 

[944 man]

ORIGINAL: bmnelsc

ORIGINAL: 944 man

With regards to price, theyre now cheaper than Spax RSX118s and the price includes a top mount too. Ive had my eye on these for a couple of years but Im yet to meet anyone who has them fitted to a Frontrunner and I havent seen a proper picture of the topmount either.

About the top mount - reviewing the ad it says the kit comes with a rubber top (front) mount (I read as non adjustable) - so it may not be as good as the Porsche one (recall they added a steel insert in the molded part of the top mount to stiffen it up for the later turbo and S2s) but even at that - this looks like a great deal....

Good point Bruce. Their web page used to say simply 'top mount' suggesting something more substantial.

 

[zcacogp]

There's more on the V1 series here:

http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/v1-series-coilovers

.. including "Many of the BC Racing V1 coilovers come with pillowball upper mounts. The mount itself is made from aluminium alloy, anodised and then bead blasted to give a high quality, durable finish.

The pillowballs themselves are of Japanese manufacture and their solid nature eliminates any flex or play associated with the standard rubber mounts so improving response and handling."

The picture alongside that paragraph is of a fairly solid-looking, camber-adjustable assembly, although the text does say "Many ... come with pillowball top mounts,", not "All".

I think the only answer to assuage our collective curiosity is for someone to either buy a set or go and have a look at some in a shop. Anyone know a stockist?


Oli.

 

[os951]

Few comments about these dampers. Like most China/Taiwan products they do look good. Internal parts are so, so, not usually good enough. A friend of mine bought a set of these 968 units. They were installed under 951. After one summer 3 of 4 were leaking oil. My friend delivered dampers to a professional suspension builder here in Finland who builds 4K€ to 6K€ rally car suspension systems. This builder re-built these chinese dampers. He installed proper seals and also fabricated few new internal aluminium/metal parts. After that he assembled parts back together with proper damper oil (used also by leading european suspension manufacturers). According this pro suspension builder BC systems are visually OK, but internal parts are where problems usually are. This modified / Rebuilt system has been in use for two summers now without difficulties. If you use these upper mounts chinese offer, most likely you run into problems with the bearings. Chinese bearings are usually total crab. If you invest few hundred more, you get a decent coilovers like Gaz etc.

 

[zcacogp]

Chaps,

I filled in the enquiry form on the website and have just had an answer, like this:

Hi,

I don't know if it will fit the 944 I'm afraid.

Pictures attached.

Regards, Bren

BC Racing UK - Street&Circuit

Extreme traction and response

Tel: +44 (0)1274 683633
Fax: +44 (0)1274 683636

Unit 4D
Wharfedale Road
Euroway Industrial Estate
Bradford
BD4 6SG
UK

... with the following photos:

So, who is going to be the first to buy a set?


Oli.

 

[edh]

I'm a bit puzzled by that

No extra springs on the rears, so height adjustment & springing just using the torsion bar. I wonder how the front rate compares with standard?

 

[zcacogp]

Indeed. And yet there is what looks like an adjustable spring collar on there with threads to move it, but no spring (or top cup) in evidence.


Oli.

 

[os951]

If they fit to 968, they will also fit 1987 and newer 944 models. Original 968 suspension is similar to what S2 models have. Only difference is spring size. S2/968 use narrower spring than 8V 944 models have. Otherwise no difference at all. If you want to have BC system under 1986 and older you need to modify spindle to strut attachment hole distance. IIRC there is 3-4mm difference between old vs. new model. Also rear shocks use smaller diametr lower bolt in older models, so a little bit modification is needed.