Another one gone

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Ok guys sad day

white S2 went for MOT today just to see if worth doing anything withit, needs

2 sills
4 front arb bushes
rear os caliper

front os brake pipe
front os strut mount
front ns wheel bearing

In parts I make that at least £800 alone but not sure of strut mount price as I type guessed £300

Anyway think that makes it easy to decide its past the point of ecenomical repair so may have a nice burgandy interior for sale non sports seats and split rears, no splits on dash door cards seem ok

Will keep engine and wheels but may sell everything else. anyone interested drop me a pm

 

[Lowtimer]

Any chance of pics of the seats?

 

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ORIGINAL: Lowtimer

Any chance of pics of the seats?

give me a few days, car now at mates for storage and its 75 miles away. will see if he can email me pictures as be couple weeks before i am down his way again

 

[chrisg]

Hi there ! I realize times are hard etc, but looking through the list of MOT issues, taking aside the sills, the other items are all very straight forward and well within the realms of a home mechanic. Seems like a real shame to scrap such a car just for te sake of replacing the sills ?

Chris

 

[Copperman05]

Indeed, does a repair have to be economical?


Edd

 

[bmnelsc]

ORIGINAL: chrisg

Hi there ! I realize times are hard etc, but looking through the list of MOT issues, taking aside the sills, the other items are all very straight forward and well within the realms of a home mechanic. Seems like a real shame to scrap such a car just for te sake of replacing the sills ?

Chris

I'm with Chris - the mechanical stuff is pretty straightforward even if parts are not inexpensive. The bodywork is another issue - but it seems a common repair.

 

[George Elliott]

Indeed, does a repair have to be economical?

Good Question.......its "Cat MOT write-off" as opposed to Insurance Cat C or D...

Pity if it was basically good

 

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There comes a time when you need to cut your losses, as my daily driver i needed it reliable and as most will know have spent silly amounts keeping it on the road. I bought my 2nd S2 in october last year, a much nicer example in many ways. The white one was originally a CAT D In my 3 years of ownership its had a fully reconed head from EMC with brand new cams, new water pump etc so I will keep the engine Also had new Struts 25 k ago with new springs and wishbones so its not an easy descision to break. The body work will cost 1 to 1.5K for a basic fix and maybe a load more once sills are cut open and we see the real extent of the rot.

The mechanical stuff as you rightly say is not hard but i have no storage close by and as the car would be SORN can no longer keep it close by. So its worth more to me as bits in terms off it will keep my other one on the road for a long time to come i hope

 

[pauljmcnulty]

Indeed, does a repair have to be economical?

Not necessarily, but in most cases yes?

When you can buy an S2 that's either sound, or has been restored, for less than the cost of the work your car needs, I'd say chop it and move on. Harsh, but realistic; we're always saying that values are only increased when the poorer cars are scrapped, which was largely my point on the "£10K-plus" threads; the worst cars need to be off the road, not out there as poor cars either costing the owners a fortune, or giving the model a bad name.

It seems odd to now suggest spending £000s on cars that are beyond economical repair is a sensible option? I'd say that Steve's estimate of £1 to £1.5K is very optimistic to restore a 944. Mine was surprisingly good, the guy was very cheap, and a lot of the aspects of the repair were less than perfect to save money, and it was a hell of a lot more than that. I'd say nearer £3K including VAT is a starting point for a basic restoration and respray on most of them? Would you really invest that money in a cat-d car with plenty of other little jobs needing doing, when you could take the decent engine out and keep another car with a better shell going?

I think we're a bit over-sentimental about them sometimes, and it doesn't do the values or the ownership experience of the decent cars any good to worry about the worst ones becoming donors. [&:]

 

[Copperman05]

I think the point is, and not knowing it was a Cat D write off, needing new sills does not make it the 'worst 944', as most of our cars are needing sills at some point. [&:][&:]


Edd

 

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ORIGINAL: Copperman05

I think the point is, and not knowing it was a Cat D write off, needing new sills does not make it the 'worst 944', as most of our cars are needing sills at some point. [&:][&:]


Edd

In some ways agree Edd, but as far as i know sills are not available from porsche at present! I keep getting told they will make more but not sure when plus it wont just be the sills as Paul aludes to and 1 to 1.5 K was for a very basic job of sills and a wee bit paint, would restore strength but not make it in anyway nice to look at.

I am sad at the thought of breaking it but it really is the only sensible option left.

PS the Cat D status makes no difference to me, seen many severely damaged cars repaired really well and with attention to detail are as good as before the accident in relation to strength etc

 

[pauljmcnulty]

as far as i know sills are not available from porsche at present! I keep getting told they will make more but not sure when

I've not got anywhere with this myself. I suspect that, if the original repair panel is ever made again it'll be many times more expensive from Porsche.

Several people talked about making sill repair panels, but I would think they only mean the outer cover. That Porsche part, with the whole inner and outer as one piece, was a thing of beauty for £150 a side!

But, the guy who did mone didn't want the repair sections. His attitude was that it's as easy to fabricate the bits that needed replacing, and the cost of the sills from Porsche was enough for him to spend several hours on each side making his own. He hates cutting good metal out to fit a whole panel, and to be fair my NS needed almost no work once it was stripped. The OS was more damaged, but mainly to the bit behind the sill, where the repair section wouldn't have been relevant.

 

[Veerzigzag]

This is a very, very relevant stream for all of us with daily-driver 944's that have not been restored and will eventually come up against the "new sills" MoT warrant. (Notice that I didn't mention the word "death" there). I await future postings on this with great interest.

 

[Monkeythree]

My 92J S2 needs new sills but since the car only cost me £1750, I see the £900 it will cost me to have the sills done as a reasonable running cost. I could probably break the car for more than £1750 but I would much prefer to restore it, use it, and have it on the road for another 21 years.

M3

 

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: Monkeythree

My 92J S2 needs new sills but since the car only cost me £1750, I see the £900 it will cost me to have the sills done as a reasonable running cost. I could probably break the car for more than £1750 but I would much prefer to restore it, use it, and have it on the road for another 21 years.

... and this is an interesting position to be in. Do you break the car and make more than you paid for it? Or do you spend the £900 to make the car worth more than the purchase price plus the cost of the new sills?

Either way, it's a good position to be in.


Oli.

 

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ORIGINAL: Lowtimer

Any chance of pics of the seats?

If you pm me an email address i will forward pictures mate has just sent

cheers

Stephen

 

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Had a compression test done on white car 150 k on clock

1 195psi 2 190psi 3 195psi 4 200psi

What the figures for new?