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968s what are they worth ?.

pauly

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I've posted the same question elsewhere about 944 turbos and it didn't seem too popular with some people, the reason for the question is I'm interested in buying either a 944T or a 968, and when I see the same cars advertised for months I get the impression the seller is expecting too much perhaps, I think in todays market £8 to £10k should buy an excellent 968, that's a bit of a drop from a couple of years ago but is £12 to £15k still realistic even for a CS ?.
 
As usual, it all depends on the car.

Buy one that hasn't had all the essential bits attended to, and it will cost you more than you expect.

Irrespective of this, have you seen a £10k CS ?

So, maybe £12 to £15k makes some sense --- car and private / dealer sale dependent.
 
There's a red one on PH now for £10495, and there was a black one not too far from me a few months ago that I think was under £11k, plus 2 on ebay recently for around £12k that didn't sell, true I haven't seen any of these cars but in the present economic climate I think you may get a decent one for around £10-£11k privately if you are carefull.
 
Yes, saw it when the advert was posted, it looks outstanding, personally I would prefer a turbo conversion and I'm glad it's £20k, if it was less I think I would be making a big hole in my savings, Lol.
 
I think it's priced about right, I reckon 19K-19.5K would bag it, a standard CS's with 75,000 mls are going for about 10K in fact I'm sure there's a white one with 40K mls up at £17995 on PH classifieds somewhere? with all the development & bits this has got on it....well ! you couldn't do a project on a 10K 85,000miler for 9K to this spec you would have to double that I reckon, I saw it up at Donnington on Sunday, he's had the compression ratio lowered to increase the boost pressure, headwork etc it's running well over 350bhp I'd say nearer 400, for the money the fellas asking you'll be eating GT3's on Track at a third of the cost if I had the money I reckon I'd be have a real good snifter at this the ideal road & Track weapon
 
If he paid full price for all the parts no doubt he's losing a fair bit on it, I couldn't afford to so I would probably buy a 993 if I was spending £20k.
 
I've posted the same question elsewhere about 944 turbos and it didn't seem too popular with some people, the reason for the question is I'm interested in buying either a 944T or a 968, and when I see the same cars advertised for months I get the impression the seller is expecting too much perhaps, I think in todays market £8 to £10k should buy an excellent 968, that's a bit of a drop from a couple of years ago but is £12 to £15k still realistic even for a CS ?.

Hi Paul,

The 944 turbo is a very different car from a 968, so it depends which you want? A good 968 is better than a good S2 in many peoples eyes, but you need to weigh every car up carefully. If it's a turbo you want then a good 944 turbo will cost you the thick end of £10k however you buy it. A cheap one will need a lot of work, a good one will have all the little upgrades that make them such a great car done already.

Have a look at the two for sale at RPM, the owner's cars and have been fully sorted by them.

http://www.rpmtechnik.co.uk/porsche/cgi-bin/csvread.pl?mydatabase=db1&mytemplate=tp1

Yes, the price is high but, as you'll keep hearing, less than has been spent on them!

 
ORIGINAL: pauly

If he paid full price for all the parts no doubt he's losing a fair bit on it, I couldn't afford to so I would probably buy a 993 if I was spending £20k.

I would think if he got 20K for it he'll be losing quite a hefty sum and a few tears I Should think, think about it! what would a 23,000mls (it's done 22,700 odd IIRC) 1 Previous owner 968 CS cost you anyway? then add to that a full engine rebuild with deskirted and balanced low compression forged pistons, full headworks custom built Intercooler & Oil Coolers c/w S/C all mapped on a Motec M400 plus a shed load of dress up stuff Carbon bits and pieces and the like and the adjustable rear spoiler...........jeez I'm talking myself into it.......(I must stop now).......and whatever way you look at it Pauly this 968's gonna eat a 993 for breakfast and then come back for seconds, I'd say it'll even eat a 993 RS / 996 GT3 etc....its a special car I've seen it in the metal it's stunning the pictures don't do it justice (as usual) although I'd have all those Oakley stickers and crap off it quicker than it could pull away from the lights
 
Hello Paul, I take your point about what these cars can cost, I bet there's some real moneypits out there. I saw the 2 RPM cars advertised but I think I prefered the silver rose on PH that had been rebuilt by autofarm , all of these cars have been for sale for a while, which must say something about the market value of them ?, that's why I'm holding back from buying one for now.

Paul.
 
ORIGINAL: ninesixfourrs

ORIGINAL: pauly

If he paid full price for all the parts no doubt he's losing a fair bit on it, I couldn't afford to so I would probably buy a 993 if I was spending £20k.

I would think if he got 20K for it he'll be losing quite a hefty sum and a few tears I Should think, think about it! what would a 23,000mls (it's done 22,700 odd IIRC) 1 Previous owner 968 CS cost you anyway? then add to that a full engine rebuild with deskirted and balanced low compression forged pistons, full headworks custom built Intercooler & Oil Coolers c/w S/C all mapped on a Motec M400 plus a shed load of dress up stuff Carbon bits and pieces and the like and the adjustable rear spoiler...........jeez I'm talking myself into it.......(I must stop now).......and whatever way you look at it Pauly this 968's gonna eat a 993 for breakfast and then come back for seconds, I'd say it'll even eat a 993 RS / 996 GT3 etc....its a special car I've seen it in the metal it's stunning the pictures don't do it justice (as usual) although I'd have all those Oakley stickers and crap off it quicker than it could pull away from the lights

I reckon he must be loaded but why do all that and then sell it ?, also I wonder is it a road car with all the bling or a track car that's a waste of a mint 968 CS ?. Fair play to the guy, he's got a fantastic car, what's he getting next though.
 
all of these cars have been for sale for a while, which must say something about the market value of them ?, that's why I'm holding back from buying one for now.

Have you tried talking to them about why the cars are priced at that level. your budget and a compromise.....[8|]
 
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

all of these cars have been for sale for a while, which must say something about the market value of them ?, that's why I'm holding back from buying one for now.

Have you tried talking to them about why the cars are priced at that level. your budget and a compromise.....[8|]

No I haven't, I would be interested in buying one of the RPM cars for £8k, any more than that and I start thinking about 968s. Personally I think the 968 is a much nicer looking car, but I do like the power delivery of the turbo.
 
ORIGINAL: pauly

ORIGINAL: ninesixfourrs

ORIGINAL: pauly

If he paid full price for all the parts no doubt he's losing a fair bit on it, I couldn't afford to so I would probably buy a 993 if I was spending £20k.

I would think if he got 20K for it he'll be losing quite a hefty sum and a few tears I Should think, think about it! what would a 23,000mls (it's done 22,700 odd IIRC) 1 Previous owner 968 CS cost you anyway? then add to that a full engine rebuild with deskirted and balanced low compression forged pistons, full headworks custom built Intercooler & Oil Coolers c/w S/C all mapped on a Motec M400 plus a shed load of dress up stuff Carbon bits and pieces and the like and the adjustable rear spoiler...........jeez I'm talking myself into it.......(I must stop now).......and whatever way you look at it Pauly this 968's gonna eat a 993 for breakfast and then come back for seconds, I'd say it'll even eat a 993 RS / 996 GT3 etc....its a special car I've seen it in the metal it's stunning the pictures don't do it justice (as usual) although I'd have all those Oakley stickers and crap off it quicker than it could pull away from the lights

I reckon he must be loaded but why do all that and then sell it ?, also I wonder is it a road car with all the bling or a track car that's a waste of a mint 968 CS ?. Fair play to the guy, he's got a fantastic car, what's he getting next though.

Speaking to him the other day he said "to be honest I don't have to sell and am certainly in no rush" apparently he's had the car for 5 Years it's pretty much a full on Trackcar right down to it's custom built fully adjustable LEDA suspension it's even got gear change LED's, apparently he's also got a super trick Honda NSX (basically every NSX R part they ever made on it with only 20,000mls on the clock) a mint MX5 on throttle bodies trick suspension et al a New Renault 225 R26 F1 meagane with KTec chip exhaust blah, blah, blah at which point I started to nod off.....so it seems he's just having a clear out and the 968 drew the short straw TBH I'm going to his place this weekend for a test drive.....oh no the rocky slope.....just got to convince the missus
 


Speaking to him the other day he said "to be honest I don't have to sell and am certainly in no rush" apparently he's had the car for 5 Years it's pretty much a full on Trackcar right down to it's custom built fully adjustable LEDA suspension it's even got gear change LED's, apparently he's also got a super trick Honda NSX (basically every NSX R part they ever made on it with only 20,000mls on the clock) a mint MX5 on throttle bodies trick suspension et al a New Renault 225 R26 F1 meagane with KTec chip exhaust blah, blah, blah at which point I started to nod off.....so it seems he's just having a clear out and the 968 drew the short straw TBH I'm going to his place this weekend for a test drive.....oh no the rocky slope.....just got to convince the missus
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So when's your first trackday in it booked for [;)], if you have come to terms with spending nearly £20k on a 968 I can't see why you wouldn't buy it, I look forward to your roadtest report.[:D]
 
Didn't say I was going to buy it, but a blast out in it will be intersting 20K is a chunk of dough but if it's got the performance it's said to have....well....what can you get in that condition with that mileage and that spec for 20K ??? anyway I've told the fella that I'm not sure about spending that sort of dough given the current economic climate and I only live about 20 mins from him any further and that probably would have made my mind up for me so at least he knows where I'm coming from, he's probably thinking even if I don't buy it at least I'll be able to big it up for him, not that I think it needs bigging up...I'll keep you posted
 
ORIGINAL: ninesixfourrs

Didn't say I was going to buy it, but a blast out in it will be intersting 20K is a chunk of dough but if it's got the performance it's said to have....well....what can you get in that condition with that mileage and that spec for 20K ??? anyway I've told the fella that I'm not sure about spending that sort of dough given the current economic climate and I only live about 20 mins from him any further and that probably would have made my mind up for me so at least he knows where I'm coming from, he's probably thinking even if I don't buy it at least I'll be able to big it up for him, not that I think it needs bigging up...I'll keep you posted

I suppose you could build the same performance into a 944 turbo for less, or perhaps an E46 M3. I think it comes down to what £20k means to you.
 
Paul,

I spent the better part of 6 months looking for a 968 Sport (not CS though). My objective was to get something that wouldn't depreciate over 18 months and was pretty close to mint. Ended up with a sound 94 black Sport (69k) for £9,000 and elected to do £4,000 worth of work to get it to "road concours" level. I'm not sure I'll achieve the first objective on re-sale but the car is now in excellent condition. I reckon I could have kept the car pretty much as I bought it and 90% of people would have thought it in very good condition. So, point is, I think you might pick up a CS for under £10,000 with more than 100,000mls on the clock but is that what you really want? I suspect decent 968s (CS and Sports) go for between £10 and £15k. A wide range reflecting a wide range of conditions.
 
ORIGINAL: henry997

Paul,

I spent the better part of 6 months looking for a 968 Sport (not CS though). My objective was to get something that wouldn't depreciate over 18 months and was pretty close to mint. Ended up with a sound 94 black Sport (69k) for £9,000 and elected to do £4,000 worth of work to get it to "road concours" level. I'm not sure I'll achieve the first objective on re-sale but the car is now in excellent condition. I reckon I could have kept the car pretty much as I bought it and 90% of people would have thought it in very good condition. So, point is, I think you might pick up a CS for under £10,000 with more than 100,000mls on the clock but is that what you really want? I suspect decent 968s (CS and Sports) go for between £10 and £15k. A wide range reflecting a wide range of conditions.

Hi,
Thanks for the reply. The CS isn't really what I'm intererested in, I wouldn't pay more for one just for the seats, decals and the bits Porsche left out. Your sport sounds like a good buy, though I probably would have been happy with it as it was. Some people tell me I won't find one at my budget, it's not that I couldn't spend £13k+ on one, I just don't want one that much. At the moment I'm just watching the classifieds and if one turns up that I like I may buy it, if not I'm not too bothered now.
Paul
 
Looking at prices it seems the CS is still making top money but the cabs are the ginger stepchild of the 968s [:D], when they were new I would have thought it was the other way around ?.
 

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