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First Service change to one year?

pwebb

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I read an interesting update on next year's cars on Rennlist. Apparently all 2018 Porsches will require a 10,000 mile/one year service rather than the current 20,000 mile/two year first service.

What does this mean for owners with cars less than a year old? Has something happened to make 2018 cars different (unlikely given the minor changes to the standard cars) or is it just a more conservative regime that we should all adopt?

Or maybe this is a US only change.anyone know more?

 
Hi Peter, my car is going into Porsche Hatfield tomorrow for some recall work and a software upgrade. I'll ask around and see if can find anything out.

Cheers
 
Service adviser at Hatfield looked quite nonplussed when I mentioned this to him this morning. So I guess this means we're ok with the 2 year cycle on our cars Peter.
Best
 
It seems odd that EU and UK cars would be different to the US - engines are the same, power output is the same.
If the US cars are due a 12 month service then I would be inclined to do the same here unless Porsche give a convincing explanation why they are different.
Many UK owners have the oil and filter changed after a couple of thousand miles or at latest 12 months anyway just for peace of mind - I did that on my BGTS and will do the same on my 991.2 GTS.
 
Thanks for the update Ellis, but it does make you wonder if an extra oil change as suggested might be sensible, if the factory now thinks it is necessary.
 
This has interesting parallels to my change from an MB S203 to S204 - MB changed the service interval from 2 years/15.5k miles to 1 year/15.5k miles. The concensus of opinion on my 2 MB forums was that it was to provide more work for MB main agent servicing! As we only do about 8k miles in our S204 I have ignored the 1 year service interval - FFS, the car uses nothing but fully synthetic oil, so why would oil/filter need changing annually rather than every 2 years? Also, as MB "every second service " B service is twice the price of an A service, it seriously increases servicing costs! IMHO it's all about getting additional income from their servicing, rather than any additional need from the vehicle itself! I've ignored it on my MB with (touches wood rapidly) no noticable downside.
 
In 1994 I had a BMW320i which I drove 95000 miles in 2.5 years, during that time it required just one service based on the BMW service interval indicator, when I handed it in it was not using any oil whatsoever, performed just as it did when new and had no problems. I have friend who got a BMW 523i in 1998, it was still in daily use after covering over 300K miles 15 years later and he did not look after it in the way I look after my cars. I really think we get too obsessed with our Porsches believing they are so delicate requiring a service very year, unable to venture out in the winter because they might get wet or salt might get onto the bodywork, these cars are built to a high standard and cost a lot more than the top end BMWs and should run for well over 100K miles. However, I fell into the "forum trap" and had an oil change on my 991 GTS after just 1 year, in hindsight what a waste of money and will never repeat that mistake. My Macan GTS is now just over 13 months old and has covered 9400 miles, I have no intention of servicing that any sooner than the Porsche recommended interval of 20K miles or 2 years, same applies to my new 991.2 C4GTS when that arrives and have every intention of driving it in all weather conditions as I do with my Macan.
 
BigCat said:
I fell into the "forum trap" and had an oil change on my 991 GTS after just 1 year, in hindsight what a waste of money and will never repeat that mistake. My Macan GTS is now just over 13 months old and has covered 9400 miles, I have no intention of servicing that any sooner than the Porsche recommended interval of 20K miles or 2 years, same applies to my new 991.2 C4GTS when that arrives......


I think 1 year is too long, actually. If you saw the amount of metal flake and swarf that comes out in the oil on first change, you might consider it a small price to pay for having new, clean and uncontaminated oil circulating in your engine.
Regards,
Clive
 
I bought a brand new Macan 2.0 (2014-2018 my) on 13th November 2018, and perhaps because I am very happy with it, in the 7 months I have done 7500 miles.

However, Yesterday I had a message pop up stating 29 days and 4400 miles until Oil change.

I know that the Intermediate service for pre-2018 my cars is 20k or 2 years, and I understand that the latest model may have been reduced to 10k or 1 year, but I think that having to change the oil at 7 months in this case is too short an interval.

I have put a call into my supplying Porsche Centre, but as yet no reply.

Just wondered if anyone on the site has had similar experiences.

Regards David
 
Gorsh said:
It seems odd that EU and UK cars would be different to the US - engines are the same, power output is the same.
If the US cars are due a 12 month service then I would be inclined to do the same here unless Porsche give a convincing explanation why they are different.
Many UK owners have the oil and filter changed after a couple of thousand miles or at latest 12 months anyway just for peace of mind - I did that on my BGTS and will do the same on my 991.2 GTS.


On that note, I lived in Canada for 15 years, and service intervals were generally every 10,000 kms, justified by 'extreme driving conditions' that handbooks attributed to the country. With -30 winter temps and +40 summer heat and a lot of dust, it seemed reasonable to describe my locality as such. It's a broad brush stoke to describe an entire continent in those terms though, but the culture there was to stick to those intervals, which often meant for me 3 oil changes a year to maintain warranty.
 
Hi,

Two points:

I regularly read the Rennlist 991 forum. They have their first service/oil change at 10,000 miles over there, and for recent purchases, this is included in the new car’s purchase price. I recently posted about my minor service on my Carrera T at 15 months. They (in the US) were all aghast that I waited until nearly 20k miles before changing oil. My theory is that Porsche are not at all shy at making/maximising profit, so if the highly skilled engineers at Porsche felt that our cars needed new oil at say 10k miles, surely they’d recommend it?!

My 2017 Panamera 4 (3.0 V6 engine) asked for new oil at 10k miles. After a short while, it indicated that new oil would be required again at 20k miles (so only 10k miles later). I have read of UK Macan owners whose cars have asked for new oil at around the 10k miles mark. My OPC said that the cars have sensors that tell you when new oil is needed and that an ‘early’ change can be triggered by the way that the car’s driven. I could understand this if the car had lots of short journeys, cold starts, stop/start traffic etc but my Panamera was driven overwhelmingly on longer trips/motorway miles etc.

Cheers,

Simon
 
Hi all,
Can anyone give a ball park figure for a first service on a 718? And can anyone advise on what I should avoid being sold?
Thanks,

Patrick
 
Loffree said:
Hi all,
Can anyone give a ball park figure for a first service on a 718? And can anyone advise on what I should avoid being sold?
Thanks,

Patrick
Probably better to post this in the Boxster/Cayman forum rather than 991. [;)]
 
I changed the oil on my 911 at the first 2000 miles. There is simply no substitute for doing this IMHO as it gives peace of mind that any contaminants from the engines following running in are drained out. Always done this and always will. Subsequent oil changes at 10k for me as well. No car should be allowed to do 20k between oil changes even taking into consideration of modern oils. Peace of mind for me.
 

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