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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2010/02/05 15:29:56 (permalink)
Hi Maurice
My drivers door was badly done before I bought the car, a 1997 Carrera S.
Some idiot had mig welded it up on the face in situe. Forgetting to mask off the inside of the car. Drivers carpet just replaced at great expense and burn holes in cill carpet about to be treated. Fortunately they missed the seat. The weld was so bad it had to be cut back before the retaining pin could be removed.
Car now has 89,000 kilometers (80,000ks when I bought it three and a half years ago) and it has been redone properly as part of my having the windscreen replaced and rust repaired around both front and rear screens. The rust was fortunately treatable and had not penetrated the metal work. Cost for taking off the door and doing the job properly €250.(£220) here in the South of France. The work was done by a very competent local garage. The boss is very interested in working on classics. I followed the whole process and now have a photographic record.
The €250 was just for the door stay the rust around the screens being part of the windscreen replacement cost.
I hadn't realised that the stay, which is a folded up sheet metal tee, is spot welded to the front of the box member until I saw it with the door off. It had pulled the front face of said box member well back until it finally parted company, badly distorting that part of the box. This would have been impossible to fix without the door removal. I say this for anybody who is told a cheap job can be made without having access to the front of the box member.
Have to say, as an engineer, I think the design is not one of the Doctors better ones. They have been extremely mean with the welding which has to be the cause of so much unnessary expense for later owners.
The passenger side seems to be fine at the moment. Fingers crossed.
Hope this helps with the file you are compiling.
Regards and happy motoring.
John.
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2010/03/02 15:23:14 (permalink)
mine went on my 993 targa had it repaired FREE at main dealers after a lot of arguing with porsche uk, because i had full service history and they lubricate the hinges as stated in their service schedual it must of been a was a default in the welding.

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2010/04/15 17:11:48 (permalink)
Sav ,
out of interest how long ago did you manage to get opc to pay for the weld to your doorstrap as i may be trying to go down the same root. I also have full sevice history and with the same dealership , so any further info would be useful


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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2011/07/09 19:49:55 (permalink)
1993 964, drivers side failed inside A post, 3 days DIY repair with wing removed. The welds inside the A Post were "Cold". This sub assembly of the shell did not have proper process control in the factory.
Small issue compared to a M96 engine
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2011/07/18 12:35:08 (permalink)
My 993 C2 now needs the drivers side repairing. Can anyone recommend a good bodyshop in the Northwest please?
 
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2011/09/20 02:39:30 (permalink)
Realised I'd never got round to adding to my earleir post on the 'cheap' fix done via Wrightune, Oxon.

All had seemed excellent at first - but it only lasted a few months before the split re-appeared - so bit of a waste of time.

It wasn't offered as a 'gamble' option, so basis was it would give a sound fix.
Fair enough for it not to last forever.....but only getting few months wear seems tad skimpy.

Did get a refund - but given in that sort of grumpy way as though you are being given a favour .......!

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2012/10/09 23:12:51 (permalink)
Hi all

My driver's side is on its way out. The clicking has just started.
I replaced both check straps about a year ago as the original ones had no resistance left in them at all. They failed to catch the door at all on the first or second 'dip'. My theory was that it would be better to have new check straps to catch the door on the first or second dip rather than letting the door swing all the way open and yank the check strap mounting with the added momentum.
I always tell every passenger not to let the door swing and to hold onto the door handle as they open it. They think I'm mad.

I'm guessing PCGB will show little interest, don't even know if I can be bothered to write a letter. :/

Most obviously a design flaw/weak design. Just like no paint on the rear chassis box section! Brilliant cars overall but some fairly fundamental oversights. Even the 993 was built to a price.

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2012/10/10 09:12:05 (permalink)
The check straps are meant to have stops on them are they? That would be good. Must look at replacing mine then.

What's that about missing paint? Where is the box section you mention?

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2012/10/10 15:03:48 (permalink)
Don't want to hijack this thread so will simply post this

http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/993/chassisSupports/chassissupports.htm

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2013/05/18 09:40:21 (permalink)
Hi nice to meet you
Just had my drivers check strap done at DRG engineering attleborough
In the a post strap pulled away
They removed the door Rewelded a post and welded in a reinforcing plate
Perfect job £150
It's not that big a deal just don't pay too much for it!
Best of luck

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2013/05/29 16:42:55 (permalink)
Raci2,

I am assuming that there may be various ways that these things can break. Do you have any photographs /& more information. This is a repair that has been long over due on my vehicle.

Many thanks

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Re: RE: Door Check Stays ... 2016/03/14 10:41:27 (permalink)
Hi Guys,
My drivers side door strap has just failed too on my 993 cab, and I was wondering if anyone has any documentation they could email me that they've had it repaired by Porsche under warranty or some sort
of discount on the work?
Any help would be much appreciated, my email is nigelemmett@msn.com

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Re: RE: Door Check Stays ... 2016/03/16 08:10:19 (permalink)
Hi Everyone,
Same old story regarding door strap, mines just gone on my 993, has anyone got PMD evidence of a repair for this problem, maybe then they might concede to some free repairs?
Nigel

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Re: RE: Door Check Stays ... 2016/03/16 08:26:21 (permalink)
Hi Sav,
Regarding the door straps breaking, do you have any Porsche paper work I could have in order to fix mine please?
N

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Re: RE: Door Check Stays ... 2016/07/13 21:04:30 (permalink)
Hi,
When I bought my car, it had had a bad repair carried out on the drivers side - the passenger side was good.
The seller agreed to resolve it before I collected, but they did a rubbish job. I just lived with it for about 4 years, then got a Porsche indie to cut out the post and weld new steel in, finish and paint.
Unfortunately, they fixed the post but put the old check strap back in. As this had stretched through the previous damage (you can tell because on full open the front top corner of the door nearly touches the 'A' post), a split appeared after just 6 months and it needed doing again! 
It's in at Ninemeister now getting this resolved.
Total cost?
No cost from original purchase (but they didn't really do much....)
£250 from the first repair at local indie. I might have to try getting this back.
£650 at Ninemeister - expensive, but I'm sick of messing about now and just want it fixing properly
 
Cheers
 
Andy
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Re: RE: Door Check Stays ... 2017/05/23 14:54:59 (permalink)
Nearly another year on, and apparently no consistent satisfactory answer to the issue.
Considering how common the problem is, I'm amazed that independents and body shops that specialise in Porsches don't have a standard solution.
Does anyone know where in the South or South West I can get a proper repair on my 993s check strap done for sensible money?
I have just been quoted £550 to have one side done, and then found out that that was for the cheapo tackweld fix!

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Re: RE: Door Check Stays ... 2017/07/06 16:55:29 (permalink)
This is still an ongoing discussion?! By Jove.
Give Pete a call at http://www.langleyautocraft.co.uk/ - he did mine years and years ago, probably when this thread had started. I have had no issues whatsoever with it since. 

PS Give him my regards



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