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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/08/23 19:29:36 (permalink)
Driver's door clicking when I bought car and used to negotiate (thank you Philip Porter for the warning). Repaired by Porsche approved body shop in May "We've done loads of these. Need to take the door off." ..and just gone back again after their repair failed.. 1996 with 93K
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/09/20 12:20:02 (permalink)
No problems with my 97 turbo at 59 thou miles.
 
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/09/26 09:04:09 (permalink)
'95 C4 cab. Not broken, but very loose, ie almost no resistance until it hits the stop at the end. I have to be very careful on windy days and always remind my passenger
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/09/26 10:23:17 (permalink)
Is there supposed to be resistance towards the end of the movement?
 
I'm surprised by how widely my doors open (and not surprised that the welds can easily get broken given the momentum I can imagine being on the doors when they reach full-open with even a minor gust of wind!). 
 
My doors open to almost 90 degress from the car and there is no feel of increased resistance near 90 degrees - is this normal?
 
My '96 C4 (28k miles) has had both stays welded on the door posts at some time in the past - I guess it's not mileage related but how much the doors get abused.

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/09/28 11:01:50 (permalink)
'96, 72k miles.  Check straps are fine.  No evidence in comprehensive history file of repairs.
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/10/07 12:53:57 (permalink)
I am at 102,000 miles and still waiting for the dreaded click. Wish I had not written this as I am probalby inviting it now.
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/10/13 11:05:01 (permalink)
Under suppliers as well ... thanks to Titanic !
 
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I am a proud owner of a 993 Targa which recently suffered a broken check strap on the drivers door.  I took it to my local specialist and they recommended contacting an ex Porsche Cars GB. body technician who lived locally in Reading.  I made contact with the technician and he assured me of his credentials and showed me a an amazing portfolio of work he had undertaken over several years at the Reading head quarters (even the restoration of a 550 Spyder owned by Porsche Cars themselves).
I am delighted with the repair of the check strap and whilst he had the vehicle he also solved one or two other annoying problems with noise from the roof and dash board - I feel privileged to have made contact with such a knowledgeable Porsche technician as Roger, who in my opinion deserves my recommendation to share with others.
Roger is based in Reading, BERKSHIRE and his contact telephone no: 07709562412 or e-mail:
roger.OVERandOUT@btinternet.com

Hopefully this will be useful to other 993 owners!
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/10/17 10:35:13 (permalink)
Similar to Mr C4YLO's 964. Drivers side door stay on my 993 has had minor weld repair from the outside. Problem was evidently the loud licking sound when opening and closing the door. Maybe it was repaired prior to complete failure but for anyone with clicking doors, just weld the small rectangular plate to the A post and job seems to be successful.

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/11/05 17:44:32 (permalink)
Anyone done this ?
 
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=189935
 
Need to check whether this kit is good for us .. don't see why not ??
 
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/11/17 13:21:12 (permalink)
'96 993TT - 58k miles..... no problems.

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2006/11/17 23:50:48 (permalink)
My local OPC did the job, and made a one third contribution. As a result, they said, of my service book being stamped up to date and all boxes ticked.
 
Drivers side went at 7 years. (2003) Plenty of clunking for two years before that. Big job, wing off etc.
Of course it is an inherent fault and ought to be a recall/ free of charge item, but what can you do?
 
On a different topic, how many 10 year old plus 993's are still taken to OPC's for regular servicing?
They don't seem at all interested in older models; no discounts, nothing. At one time, they offered deals on brake discs, but no more.
 
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2007/01/17 08:55:10 (permalink)
Hi all,
 
My check strap has just started clicking, and as the car is now up for sale I figure it's best to fix it in advance of it being sold.
 
My local Porsche approved body shop has quoted £300+VAT, they said they've done loads, door comes off not the wing is the way they do it.
 
Does this sound excessively expensive?  I though it not bad, but I've seen others on here suggesting costs much less than this?
 
Secondly, is it worth trying to get Porsche Car GB to contribute to the cost?  I didn't purchase the car from an OPC so I suspect they won't be interested in contributing.  The maintenance book shows that the 10 year corrosion warranty is fully stamped.
 
Any thoughts are suggestions are appreciated
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2007/01/17 09:23:14 (permalink)
Darren,
My understanding is that it's not a corrosion issue, so that warranty would not be relevant, it is simply a weak design (which Porsche have always refused to admit is a design fault).  So they never contribute (or at least I've never seen any discussion here that's ended in successfully getting them to contribute!).
 
Mine had already been "done" by the time I'd acquired it so I did not have to pay, but from what I've read, 300 sounds reasonably low for an OPC price but perhaps a touch high for elsewhere.  (Although I think most OPCs take the wing-off route)

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2007/01/17 13:54:13 (permalink)
Darren,

FWIW JZ Machtech quoted me £349 + VAT only last week for it to be done "properly" so your quote is in the right ball park.

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2007/01/20 13:38:20 (permalink)
Hi Maurice

My driver's door check-stay broke about 4 years ago.  It went to a body-shop in Slough (I'm sure you know the one).  I do not know whether or not the wing had to be removed to repair it.

Now the damn thing's gone again.  This time my baby's going to Specialised Paintwork (Calcot, Reading) to have it fixed.  They're also doing a bit of a general  spruce-up.

The passenger-side door check-stay has never broken, but then it gets very little use in comparison to the driver's side.

I have always been careful and gentle when opening the door - there are only a couple of instances I can remember where wind or camber caught me unawares.

It occurs to me that an old-style leather restraining strap (a check-stay strap
) would limit how far the door could open, preventing the check-stay from reaching its limit.

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2007/01/20 17:09:32 (permalink)
You know, this door check stay thing is puzzling.Two years ago I had a mental breakdown and started to push me car out of the garage with the door open. Tried to stop movement but it did so of its own accord when the door edge caught the wood edge of the garage door. This caused the door to deflect upwards about 15 degrees to the horizontal.Cue for mass weeping and wailing. I imagined distorted door hinges, check stay etc.Adrenalin pumping, I grabbed the top of the door and pushed downwards with great force. The door deflected back to its original position, closed perfectly with that characteristic clunk/ click, and so far as I could see there was no creasing etc to hinges or stay.All I had to do was touch up the slightly damaged door edge paint and that was it.
To this day the door and stay continue to work perfectly. Work that one out!
 
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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2007/01/20 20:52:20 (permalink)
They must be built even better than we thought - and with special ’spring-back’ qualities

On the subject of the stays - My C2’s done 111k and they’re apparently good. - I always treat the doors (and the rest of it!) with the utmost care.

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2007/01/20 23:18:56 (permalink)
With regard to your question, Maurice, about what support I got from my OPC for 'clicking doors' - well, frankly, ****-all.  My chap at AFN Reading could only shrug his shoulders when asked what Porsche were going to do to help rectify the fault, meaning  "I'd love to help but it's not corporate policy".  Knowing what obeying edicts from above can mean to career progression I didn't push the poor chap any further - I don't enjoy seeing innocent people squirm. 

But isn't this exactly how faceless corporations avoid grief, i.e relying on nice people like me not wanting to harrass the poor ol' cannon fodder.

He (I'm deliberately avoiding mentioning his name) has always been very supportive and is a credit to his employers, so I'm not going to make a fuss.  Porsche 1 - Me 0.

Despite this, I'd still recommend AFN Reading's services - not a rip-off in my humble opinion.  But don't expect support from them on this subject.

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2007/01/20 23:25:18 (permalink)
My response seems to have been censored.  Instead of "****-all" please read "b-u-g-g-e-r  a-l-l"

Censor that.  Are we adults or what?  Or have I had a tad too much wine?

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RE: Door Check Stays ... 2007/01/22 12:45:02 (permalink)
Hey, Matthew.
Think that should be "nihil illegitimi ad carborundum"
Sorry for sounding like a swot.
 
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