Shell V Power v Esso Synergy Supreme+ 99

[Raybold7]

Does anyone have a preferred choice between the two fuel choices or know of an alternative? I was planning on using V Power because I've always thought this was the cleanest. However now seeing a few people mention Esso so was wondering which was better? Really after technical improvements more so than getting a discount through the club. TIA

 

[AndrewCS]

Usage wise, I have not noticed any difference - nor did I expect to given how these fuels are developed and tested - by both the manufacturer and the car companies. If you experience an issue with either it will most likely be down to transportation and / or storage problems

I use V Power given the excellent service provided by my nearest station, the closer Esso station is a `tip` ...

Attached for info ... not a full technical breakdown but info. none-the-less []

 

[Laurence71]

I tend to use Esso Supreme mostly as I have the WEX petrol card so was getting 6p a litre off. Have also used Tesco Momentum on occasion and V-Power. All seem to work the same.

 

[911MJA]

I use both depending on where I am. I tend to use Shell V Power locally but my nearest petrol station is Esso so use that as well. Not noticed any difference in performance and/or economy.

 

[Raybold7]

Thanks chaps. So no real benefit for either. The local garage, 1 mile away, has always been Shell and 2 months ago changed to Esso! Imagine my frustration after only just having my car and planning on using V Power. At least now I'm safe in the knowledge that either is good so I can pick and choose rather than having to search for one or the other. []

 

[mikegibson]

Use all of the above and Tesco Momentum too. Using a mix of all of them is the best of all worlds.

 

[Dick Dastardly]

Used both and find no discernible difference.
Esso fuel card discount can make a difference but depends on how individual stations choose to price the fuel sometimes V max can be cheaper or similar price.

 

[Raybold7]

I never considered the Tesco offering. I didn't realise it was that good?

 

[mikegibson]

Debates rage about the virtues of different manufacturers fuels and this forum has plenty of discussion on the topic. I am sure that snobbery plays a part in these debates. All of these fuels meet the required standards and the base fuel may well come out of the same refinery. The additive packs are a key differentiator as is ethanol content. Esso, contains no ethanol in most cases, except in those locations where the "local" refinery does not supply ethanol free in which case it does. Shell and Tesco both have ethanol in. Ethanol is generally regarded as a bad thing as it absorbs water, meaning whether its in a petrol station tank or in your car, the longer it hangs about, the more water it absorbs. This is one reason many would regard Esso as better.

I would group negative comments about Tesco fuel into one of 2 categories:
1) A perception that the additive pack is inferior to Shell/Esso.
2) A belief that the average Tesco forecourt sells less 99 fuel than the others so the fuel in the tanks has been hanging around and degrading. Given Tesco sell more fuel than Esso, Shell and BP put together, I find this hard to believe even if 99 is not their biggest seller.

I've used Tesco in my Porsches ever since Tesco launched it and have seen no ill effects.

 

[Andyg400]

For the Tesco fans - Ethanol test.

https://youtu.be/haCaEExGQUw

As an aside, only Esso state their 99+ has zero Ethanol, the rest don't, Tesco,Shell,Texaco et all.

https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels

[FONT='helvetica neue', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 22px"]What’s in our Synergy Supreme+ 99 premium petrol?
Our Synergy Supreme+ 99 petrol has more cleaning power than our regular petrol – and includes molecules engineered to reduce friction in your engine and help moving parts work more efficiently.*
Although our pumps have E5 labels on them, our Synergy Supreme+ 99 is ethanol-free (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland). Legislation requires us to place E5 labels on pumps that dispense unleaded petrol with ‘up to 5% ethanol’, including those that contain no ethanol.
There’s currently no requirement for renewable fuel, like ethanol, to be present in super unleaded petrol. However, if this changes in the future, we will comply with any new legislation.

 

[Schuey]

Interesting thread!

Due to proximity, it's either Shell V-Power or Esso 99 Supreme for me.

I am due to go on a road trip to Ireland next month, and my understanding is they only have 95 RON over there. Should I be thinking about Octane Booster or just let the car's ECU adapt to 95 RON while I'm over there?

 

[Motorhead]

There’s no need to be concerned about using regular fuel Jas. The engine will run perfectly happily on 95-octane fuel … the knock sensor(s) will take care of things automatically. Unless you’re really giving it the beans, I doubt that they’ll come into play anyway.??

Enjoy your trip!

Jeff

 

[AndrewCS]

^ Agreed ...

Butt dyno wise - the GT4 runs as well on 95, no noticeable difference in performance just slightly worse economy

 

[Schuey]

There’s no need to be concerned about using regular fuel Jas. The engine will run perfectly happily on 95-octane fuel … the knock sensor(s) will take care of things automatically. Unless you’re really giving it the beans, I doubt that they’ll come into play anyway.??

Enjoy your trip!

Jeff

Thanks Jeff, I will not worry then ??????

 

[Schuey]

^ Agreed ...

Butt dyno wise - the GT4 runs as well on 95, no noticeable difference in performance just slightly worse economy

Thanks Andrew ????

 

[SV_WDC]

Perhaps slightly O/T but how what prices are people seeing for Esso Supreme (99) vs V-Power?

 

[AndrewCS]

Don`t use Esso but V-Power is 164p here ...

V-Power has recently been `upgraded` re. it`s cleaning properties

V-Power Unleaded Fuel | 3x More Cleaning Molecules | Shell UK | Shell United Kingdom

Shell DYNAFLEX Technology | Shell United Kingdom

 

[Brisel]

20 pence/litre premium for V Power over Shell 95 E10 unleaded around here (Oxfordshire/Northants). My local Tesco is a 10 ppl premium for Momentum 99 over a much cheaper 95 RON base price.

 

[air-cooled-fan]

I've used Esso, Morrisons and Shell E5 in both my air cooled 911s and in my Macan Turbo. Can't say that I've noticed any difference. Going back many years, I worked for Esso and can assure you that tankers from all sorts of retailers turned up at terminals to fill up. The fuel was from the same source... just marketed under a different name. Does Tesco run its own refineries... I think not.
Having used E10 in the Macan... again no noticeable difference in performance, but fuel consumption about 5% better on the E5, so some compensation there for the higher cost per litre.

 

[AndrewCS]

The country`s numerous pipelines and storage depots allow for post transportation blending for each brand. I doubt that a company`s blending additive package would be available to outsiders of their brand, unless included in the final product. Brands have / do share products based on location of depots and retail outlets

Also, additives can be put into the road tankers

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