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BOSE V Standard system help required

WAB172uk

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So, I have just received a call from my dealer.
I have now (at last) been given a build slot for February. Only, if I want this slot I cannot have BOSE. If I do want it, I'd have to wait for another build slot allocation, which they don't know when this would be.
Has anyone got the standard system? Is it any good or total rubbish to make people upgrade to BOSE?
And has anyone any experience of comparing standard to BOSE? What were your conclusions?
I'm reluctant to upgrade again to the Burmester system as it's another £2525 on top of the BOSE system.
Any input would be much appreciated.
 
There's been a shortage of Bose amplifiers for sometime now, although I believe fresh supplies are starting to filter through once again. It may be worth asking your dealer to verify the latest position with the factory.
For what it's worth, I have the basic sound system in my GTS and find perfectly adequate and acceptable for my purposes. ????

Regards,

Clive

 
Thanks Clive

Salesman said Porsche have said either Standard system or wait for another build slot. I did mention about having it built while waiting for the BOSE parts. Porsche won’t now allow this. Only cars that were previously locked-in.


I‘ve arranged to go to dealership this weekend, as they have a Macan in with the standard setup. So will see how it sounds.

I don’t want something tinny for flat, but don’t want to let this build slot go either. I’d be very reluctant to upgrade to the Bermester given the addition cost. Unless it was out of this world amazi compared to the Bose setup
 
Back to 2016. I ordered new car 981 Spyder and opted for sound system plus ie the standard system with more speakers and an upgraded amp - confirmed and paid for on the order. After a few days of taking delivery could not fade front to back etc and didn't sound that good. Took car back to PC Cambridge and they confirmed that although extra speaker Grills were present nothing behind these grills. Also the upgraded amp had not been fitted. [:mad:]
PC Reading refused to retro fit and and just refunded. BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Having had Macan’s with both systems, I certainly would not miss a build slot because of the lack of Bose. I personally didn’t think there was a lot of difference. Also you have no guarantee when or if Bose is going to become available again, I have a friend who has just lost his dream Boxster GTS allocation for similar reason.
 
stephentodd said:
Having had Macan’s with both systems, I certainly would not miss a build slot because of the lack of Bose. I personally didn’t think there was a lot of difference. Also you have no guarantee when or if Bose is going to become available again, I have a friend who has just lost his dream Boxster GTS allocation for similar reason.


I agree with Stephen, it's certainly not worth missing out on your car for lack of Bose. The Bose is a bit crap actually (like most Bose products to be honest). I've never heard but I told the Burmeister is amazing. Perhaps if sound quality is very important to you try to hear a Burmeister system?
 
That’s another £2500. If the standard system is rubbish, then I need to quickly see what 3rd party options there are with upgrades.

if it’s close to the Bermester system, I might as well tick that.

I think you only notice how crap some system are after you’ve had a car with a great system. My old Audi S3 had a B&O system that was amazing. Best system in any car I’ve owned. Jumped form that to the Kardon system in my X3, which is crap in comparison.
 
Seems as though you are "audio aware" and Macan is a quiet car when cruising, so if you aren't impressed following appraisal of the standard system, then the Burmester option is going to be your best bet.

Speaking personally, I'd rather spend the money on more appealing options. [;)]

Regards,

Clive
 
Hi all,
I have the Bose system in my Macan Turbo and Burmeister system in my 992 Turbo S. Whilst the Bose system is pretty good and makes good use of the subwoofer situated below the cargo area floor it also enables either normal or space sound to be selected. However although the 992 had a smaller interior the Burmeister system is very superior.
lf you want crystal clear sound at all levels then bite the bullet and go for the better system IMHO.
 
I have had four Macans (so far). First two used: one Burmester, one Bose. Then ordered new S with Burmester - fantastic. Recently taken delivery of GTS with Bose. Biggest regrets are not speccing Burmester and noise-insulated glass - lighter and thief-resistant. Bose in my Boxster is better than Bose in my Macan. And bear in mind resale value. Good luck!
Andrew

Previous: Macan Turbo 2015, Macan S 2018, 2019
Now: Macan GTS 2022, Boxster S 2016
 
I have been through this pain and eventually went for the standard system…been surprised how good it is….but then I do like listening Mary Chapin Carpenter.:ROFLMAO:
 
Dodsley2 said:
I have been through this pain and eventually went for the standard system…been surprised how good it is….but then I do like listening Mary Chapin Carpenter.:ROFLMAO:


Someone has to !!! Lol.

I've had a quick Google for car Audio companies in the North East that could possibly upgrade the speaker should the standard set up be inadequate. But like everything, it's a minefield if you don't know exactly what you're looking for.

I'd be quite gutted if it turned out upgrading to something far better was the same cost as just ticking the Bermester system. But some people don't rate that either.

I listen to a lot of 90's dance and Trance music. So need a good base. Not Halfords Vauxhall Corsa base though !

What audio options come with the standard system? Just base and treble?

 
Standard system just has just base and treble …. I did a lot of experimenting with the standard v Bose I could not really hear any difference but could with the Burminster but not prepared to spend that sort on money!
 
Cristo said:
Do you really want some third party supplier pulling your factory built car apart??


thats why I was looking for a reputable business who have experience with high end cars. Not someone cutting out the rear parcel shelf and fitting speakers for £50.


I’ll wait till I hear the standard setup on Saturday. Ticking Bermester puts me approx £72k
 
Sorry, not sure what you mean by £72k for ticking Burmester…….
In any event even reputable company’s that specialise in working on high end cars still have to disassemble your car to modify oem hardware which is not something I personally like having done. However best wishes for what ever you decide.
 
Cristo said:
Sorry, not sure what you mean by £72k for ticking Burmeister…..
In any event even reputable company’s that specialise in working on high end cars still have to disassemble your car to modify oem hardware which is not something I personally like having done. However best wishes for what ever you decide.


I meant that by ticking bermester it'll take my car price to £72k.

I do know what you mean in regards to them dismantling the car. But I have my other car fully PPF'd which means dismantling parts of the car. It's just picking the right company.

 
Ok. So, I went into my local OPC yesterday to sort out my final spec before my February build date.

As we know, BOSE is now not available, so I asked if I could listen to a car with standard Porsche speakers. They didn't have a Macan, but did have a Taycan with it. Sitting in the car, music on. My first impressions were this is absolutely rubbish. Playing with the base and treble (only options) didn't really improve things much. Sounded flat, tinny, & fake. Like there was something over the speakers stopping the sound. Salesman sounded pretty pleased with it though, commenting it's still a good sound. Don't know what he was listening to, but it wasn't the same as me. It reminded me of the speakers in my old Subaru Impreza days. Now they were rubbish, and this didn't sound too dissimilar. Soo disappointing. Not sure how anymore would be happy with them, and really not sure why Porsche think they are acceptable on cars costing what they do.

Then asked if they had a car with Bermester. Sat in a Cayenne, only to then realise it didn't have an AMP !! Eventually we sat in a 911 Targa 4. Green with Brown interior. God it looked lovely. Was tempted there and then to ask what the finance figures would be. Anyway, turns the radio on, and what a difference !!!! Really rich sound. Could hear and feel the base. Put it into 3D surround sound, which only made it even better. The B&O system in my old Audi was probably the best system I've had on a car. The Bermester blows it out of the water. Get some good Trance mixes on this system and it'll sound amazing.

Big gulp, deep intake of breath "I'll have it". Over £2500 more than the BOSE is quite a lot, but as I intend to keep the car for many years, having a good sound system is essential. Much better than trying to upgrade the speakers with the standard set-up.

I was going to tick a couple more options, but after deciding on the Bermester, I decided enough was enough.
 
WAB172uk said:
Ok. So, I went into my local OPC yesterday to sort out my final spec before my February build date.

As we know, BOSE is now not available, so I asked if I could listen to a car with standard Porsche speakers. They didn't have a Macan, but did have a Taycan with it. Sitting in the car, music on. My first impressions were this is absolutely rubbish. Playing with the base and treble (only options) didn't really improve things much. Sounded flat, tinny, & fake. Like there was something over the speakers stopping the sound. Salesman sounded pretty pleased with it though, commenting it's still a good sound. Don't know what he was listening to, but it wasn't the same as me. It reminded me of the speakers in my old Subaru Impreza days. Now they were rubbish, and this didn't sound too dissimilar. Soo disappointing. Not sure how anymore would be happy with them, and really not sure why Porsche think they are acceptable on cars costing what they do.

Then asked if they had a car with Bermester. Sat in a Cayenne, only to then realise it didn't have an AMP !! Eventually we sat in a 911 Targa 4. Green with Brown interior. God it looked lovely. Was tempted there and then to ask what the finance figures would be. Anyway, turns the radio on, and what a difference !!!! Really rich sound. Could hear and feel the base. Put it into 3D surround sound, which only made it even better. The B&O system in my old Audi was probably the best system I've had on a car. The Bermester blows it out of the water. Get some good Trance mixes on this system and it'll sound amazing.

Big gulp, deep intake of breath "I'll have it". Over £2500 more than the BOSE is quite a lot, but as I intend to keep the car for many years, having a good sound system is essential. Much better than trying to upgrade the speakers with the standard set-up.

I was going to tick a couple more options, but after deciding on the Bermester, I decided enough was enough.
I’m sure you will be pleased with the Bermester… there is a recent interesting Chat on the subject on the Macan UK forum… turns out what really makes a difference is the quality is the level of soundproofing around the speakers , Taycan has very little but the Macan has a quite a bit…for me it was Base system or Berminster but based on my music tastes opted for the base system!
 
I admit to being entirely unsophisticated in the specialist world of in-car entertainment, but it occurs to me the only real way of accurately assessing a sound system would be to experience it in the surroundings and environment it's going to be used in i.e. the correct model, on the public highway and in motion. Otherwise, any other appraisal is likely be quite misleading, isn't it?

Anyway, for my part, spending thousands on sound to complete against all the motion, traffic and extraneous cabin noise is rather futile. My preference would be to save the cash or spend it on some, more useful bit of kit. But we all have differing opinions on what is most important to us. :rolleyes:

It'll be a great car anyway. [:D]

Regards,

Clive
 

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