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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/04/12 10:14:59 (permalink)
Another view - PDK shifter speed ... https://youtu.be/qAS_rSnOKsc?t=989 
 
Technical Illustrations in Photos - The new Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS
 
NB ... drop down menu under The new Porsche Cayman GT4RS in Highlights - The new Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS
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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/04/14 16:50:24 (permalink)
Lapping Spa on a Porsche Track Experience event.
 


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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/06/26 19:13:13 (permalink)
At Pikes Peak just now ... 

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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/07/01 17:33:37 (permalink)
I have the same experience that my local OPC's just tell me I'm not a good enough customer to be allocated a GT4 / GT3/ RS versions etc.
 
I've bought five new cars and owned 31 ... I currently own four classics plus the GT4 that I bought in 2015 which has done almost 30k miles.
 
So I'm selling my GT4 and concentrating on my classics ... which my dealer complains could have been bought from them ?  When did you last see a 944 Turbo Cup / 964 3.8 RSR / '73 2.4S or 1000 mile 987 Spyder at your OPC ? They make themselves look so arrogant ...
 
 

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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/07/01 18:31:44 (permalink)
As someone without a vested interest as I couldn't afford to buy one anyway I believe the only way to solve the issue of dealers only supplying their chosen customers who are in a position to buy everything that comes along is fot porsche to take over order acceptance for gt and special models from opc's
They should open the order books only on the day the model is announced and it should be first come first served irrespective of which models you may or may not have bought before, with perhaps a bar on known flippers or car sales companies 
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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/08/15 01:52:01 (permalink)
Eureka 
 
Just for you Ralph ... 
 
 

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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/08/15 07:32:01 (permalink)
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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/08/15 11:30:18 (permalink)
Thanks for posting the link Andrew.  It just makes it so much harder to bear the unavailability and to bemoan the fact that the low miles GT4's currently on sale are all asking around RS list.  
 
There was a lovely, very dark, metalic green one at the last Croft track day.  Clearly being used as intended, circulating for most of the day.  It looked and sounded superb and was clearly the fastest car there, especially through the bends.  One club member witha GT3RS had already done a deal to swap to a GT4RS, delivery January.

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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/08/15 13:33:57 (permalink)
Welcome John
 
I just console myself - use the unavailability to experience additional assets at far less than `the cost to change`, even for a used - latest GT4 PDK 
 
Recently acquired a `small` M car rather than be subject to the flipping OPC`s   

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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/08/15 17:45:19 (permalink)
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As someone without a vested interest as I couldn't afford to buy one anyway I believe the only way to solve the issue of dealers only supplying their chosen customers who are in a position to buy everything that comes along is fot porsche to take over order acceptance for gt and special models from opc's
They should open the order books only on the day the model is announced and it should be first come first served irrespective of which models you may or may not have bought before, with perhaps a bar on known flippers or car sales companies 




That sounds somewhat fairer than the current system. It seems grossly unfair that some who is already lucky enough to own a GT3 / GT4 / Spyder and hopefully has had a lot of fun driving it should then be first in line to get another one. They've already got a GT car, let someone who hasn’t got one yet have the opportunity to enjoy one. 
Perhaps if OPCS refused to accept as a trade in any car that had been bought new and hadn’t done say 10,000 miles it would help too. 

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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/08/16 10:24:27 (permalink)
If we turn this round, would any of us sell our cars to an enthusiast for thousands less than we could get on the open market.  I have to accept that to Porsche this is a business, within which we enthusiasts are a very small percentage of their market and the current pricing model, including the 'used' premiums, is very profitable for all.  And if it allows Porsche to make 'halo' GT cars, the engineering of which feeds back into the models we can actually buy, I will take that at least.  (I will also  still be very envious of those that are able to get their hands on an RS, despite trying desperately to convince myself that I really dont want one!)

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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/09/24 12:18:50 (permalink)

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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/09/25 12:17:38 (permalink)
It does nt help when all the magazines and celebrity testers rave about what are not really ‘production cars’ I did suggest to Evo mag that cars that aren’t freely available should not qualify for ‘car of the year’ type awards. Maybe they should be in a separate category. Of course I had no response ! And yes I do enjoy reading about them, but I’d rather make myself poor and run one myself.
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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/09/25 13:41:14 (permalink)
Thanks for the link Andrew. It sounds as though - perhaps with a few minor tweaks - that it would be possible to upgrade a standard 718 GT4 chassis to RS spec?
 
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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/09/25 21:51:53 (permalink)
Not worth it, better to fit fully adjustable (turnbuckle - rose joint) links to the standard car (981 - 718 being the same) 

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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/09/26 11:41:47 (permalink)
Agreed.  Clubsport parts just bolt straight on  
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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/09/30 19:44:52 (permalink)
Not the usual `journo` review 
 

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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/10/03 23:29:17 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby AndrewCS 2022/10/03 23:40:51
I was out in a 4RS today and hopefully get to drive one later this week for a short while. 

From the passenger seat… as everyone has said… it’s the noise that dominates. 
The car is really for the hooligans, lol… it’s a pure toy, just like a big hp super bike. 
It is quick… the noise from 7-9k makes you think it’s even quicker than it really is. PDK box with the short ratios is perfectly mated to that engine… perfect drivetrain. 

991 and 992 GT3 are more serious, and more effective about the business of going fast… but 4RS is just a hoot… it’s all about the experience and sensory overload… alot of fun.
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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/10/14 14:34:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby AndrewCS 2022/10/14 14:54:52
So in a follow-up.. i had my drive in the 4RS...
 
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So this last week I was very fortunate to have had 2x GT4RS encounters…
No.1 -> Pax laps at Silverstone GP,
No.2 -> Then thrown the keys to drive a box fresh GT4RS, by a good track buddy… however ‘box fresh’ did mean I was limited to ‘only’ 7k RPM… 🤣…. more than enough for the public road, Officer. Lol.
 
Impressions -> as everyone has said, the noise of the engine and intake dominates proceedings. Very mechanical sounding car on the drivetrain side, the smallest movement of throttle delivers a change in note and tone… for me this a pure fun car and therefore it should have theatre, of which there is plenty. From this experience, taken with the full chat track laps… for me, up to about 7k rpm, the car is totally fine on the road from a noise pov, given what it is supposed to be. If you use 7-9 on the road, it’s going to be a big noise and huge speed anyway.. you choose. 👀
 
Power and performance -> The car is as quick as you’d expect it to be in a straight line with THAT engine, and the short ratio PDK is perfectly matched to keep the car always on, or near, the boil. Not as big of a torquey punch as I was expecting from low to mid range, but the power is definitely there as the revs rise. Pulls hard and clean.
 
Chassis -> For context I’m used to driving a GT4 MR. On the road 4RS is perfectly fine, IMO. I definitely do not agree with claims that it is too stiff for the road. Of course on a broken b-road, it’s a sports car, with big wheels and skinny sidewall tyres. To me, in its out-of-box config, on the road, it felt like a ‘regular’ 718 GT4…that is, a little bit loose and floaty and therefore disappointing.
On a smooth Silverstone it held its own: the revised spring rates are an improvement over the standard GT4 which is just too soft on track IMO, especially on the front end, but the overall body control just isn’t there and that car just didn’t feel special enough or like I’d expect an ‘RS’ product to be.
The chassis side on the RS is the weak link IMO, now that the drivetrain is so potent and aggressive. The MR setup provides so much more confidence with its tighter body control and once again if i were to get a 4RS, the MR chassis kit would be the first money I spend on the car to improve it for track use.
 
Summary -> With a 4RS, you are buying into the use of carbon fibre + THAT engine/transmission, married to the super fun GT4 platform, just excellent. Its 'special' car because of the RS badge.... but I definitely would NOT pay massive overs for one... 992 GT3 and probably 991.2 GT3 remain superior for going fast on track IMO.
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Re: Cayman GT4 RS Review 2022/10/15 10:10:55 (permalink)
Thanks for the insight T. Good to get some realistic input from someone familiar with the 718 GT4, especially with the MR suspension mods.
 
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