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GTS4.0 build slot lead times 2022

Windy_Miller

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Just wondering what kind of lead times anyone with recent / current orders are experiencing between placing their order with a dealer and receiving notification of build slot?

I submitted my ‘order’ with OPC East London in December ‘21 and email correspondence today from them indicating a build slot unlikely till end of 2022… ??
 
I think it all depends on dealer allocation but here is what happened with me:

Order placed July 2021 , OPC had no idea of 2022 allocation at that stage. Expectation was appx June/July 2022 delivery.

October 2021 , allocation confirmed with January 2022 build slot.

Delivery expected end of Feb 2022 albeit that it seems to fluctuating back and forth by a week.

There was nobody in front of me with a GTS order and so that helped. What I learned from the entire process was that the OPC can be just as much in the dark as you are.

 
I placed my order with Silverstone in January 22 (3 weeks ago) and was told to expect the car Sept-Dec 22 but they hope it would be earlier

So I am sitting back and relaxing as there is nothing I can do to change that and what will be will be

 
For a Cayman GTS4.0 then expect to wait at least a year.

For a Boxster GTS4.0 then it is likely to be two years.

I have been told much the same by several different OPCs.

 
JaseGTS said:
Aren't they stopping both the GTS and GT4 shortly or is that just in the U.S?
Well yes, there’s much conjecture that the next variant of Cayster will be electric or hybrid. Porsche Post opined on this in an article in Q4 last year with some electric concept ‘race’ roadster in it - can’t remember the model name.

But there’s nothing definitely expressed datewise as to when current model caysters will cease production. Again, conjecture seems to be around 2023-24, by which time the 718 (982) will have been in service for 7-8years. A reasonably ‘typical’ time to retire the model at (the 987 had a 7yr run).

All my opinion there and nothing of any definite fact.. 🤷‍♂️

 
Ordered on the 11 Nov '21 for a March build request with a June delivery

Offered a Feb build as it was an extra allocation given to my OPC.

Car due 25th March '22.

Dan

 
Jason,

I think that it’s a foregone conclusion that the next Cayman/Boxster will be a full BEV, most probably along the lines of the Mission R concept race car. The biggest question is when will we actually see this car in production given that unless they’re extremely well disguised we haven’t seen obvious mules out testing, which is what you’d normally be expecting if it’s going to arrive in a 2024/25 timescale? Even if the electric workings are disguised in a 718 body, you’d have to imagine that they would be obvious by their comparative silence!

Having said that, it’s therefore most likely that 718 production will continue into 2024 and maybe even 2025, possibly with a light refresh and the usual run-out “special editions”. As with the Macan BEV it’s also possible that 718 production could continue for a short while alongside that of its replacement if production capacity is available and if BEV take-up is sluggish. However, an additional issue is that at the moment Caymans, Boxsters and 911s are built on the same production line in Stuttgart (although Caymans are also built in Osnabrück) but this may not be possible if the Cayman is a BEV, so 718 production may have to stop in order to update the facilities.

Given that the 718-series is a very lightly reworked 981-series car, itself introduced in 2012, the design is distinctly very long in the tooth for a modern production car and is begging for a replacement.

All just my tuppence work of course. [;)]

Jeff

 
@Jeff - that’s the concept car I was trying to remember, the Mission R, thanks for the memory jog 👍🏻

Good points made about nil visibility to date of any test mules so perhaps 718/982 production may run till 24-25 (or longer?).

i think for me the concern is the uncertainty as to when ICE cayman production will run to / end, hence taking the plunge now before it’s too late to buy (new) one of the ‘last’, especially with the very long lead times currently. 🤷‍♂️

Jason

 
I think it’s impossible to second guess how long the 718 will remain in production Jason, but I’m sure that it’ll run through 2023 and most probably into Q1/Q2 in 2024 at least, by which time the current supply problems should be history and lead times should be reduced … hopefully! Plus, Porsche have invested a lot money in the F-6 4.0L engine design, development and production and will want to maximise that investment by continuing production of the 718 GT4, GT4 RS and GTS variants as long as possible.

That’s just my take on it anyway, and since I have an interest in purchasing an (unobtainable?) GT4 or a GTS, like you I’m keeping an eye on the delivery situation; and the positive thing is that the longer 718 production continues the more choice there should be on the used car market.

Jeff

 
I wonder if the GTS will stop then too. The GT4RS is likely to be the last 718 derivative produced, so maybe late 2022 for the last few of those?

It's all a guessing game but I don't see the 718 getting a facelift. I think it'll be canned instead.

 
Just as likely to happen as not Dave … who knows right now with all the supply shortages and restricted build-slot availability? I guess Porsche have still got to build quite a few GT4 RSs too for worldwide delivery.

Maybe the PH “chatter” is based upon GT3 RS production usually signalling the end of GT3 production? However, the GT4 isn’t the GT3, and we’re in exceptional times with an electric Cayman in the pipeline leading to the end of the combustion-engined car’s production run.

Jeff

 
Tetris Keyring said:
Twinfan said:
The chat on PistonHeads is that GT4 production will finish this summer...
Yes, my local OPC said the same.

Since when did the Porsche dealers know what’s going on … they always seem to be the last ones to know? 😀

Internet chatter always appears to be a better source of correct/incorrect information - if you’re prepared to believe it!

Jeff

 
The GT4RS, according to my OPC, is going to be in very, very short supply - contrary to what Andreas Preuninger said at launch. They've been given one car and no sign of any more, and they were in the process of telling VIP customers that they weren't going to get one. They wouldn't do that unless Porsche had told them very clearly what the situation was.

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole 718 line stopped this year for the UK.

 
Motorhead said:
Tetris Keyring said:
Twinfan said:
The chat on PistonHeads is that GT4 production will finish this summer...
Yes, my local OPC said the same.

Since when did the Porsche dealers know what’s going on … they always seem to be the last ones to know? 😀

Internet chatter always appears to be a better source of correct/incorrect information - if you’re prepared to believe it!

Jeff
Ha. Too true

 
Twinfan said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the whole 718 line stopped this year for the UK.

Nothing would surprise me in the current climate Dave. However, I really can’t see that happening unless Porsche need to start modifying the production line(s) in preparation for the supposed electric replacement, and that would impact the situation for the ROW too. Of course, only the Cayman is built on the Osnabrück line and it’s possible that it could be shut-down early and reconfigured for the electric car, with Caymans and Boxsters only being assembled in Stuttgart which would limit 718 production numbers significantly.

If there’s a healthy UK order book and sufficient production capacity, it wouldn’t make business sense to stop delivery.

Interesting to hear about the potentially restricted GT4 RS availability but I suspect that its development and subsequent sales were focused more on the race car and its delivery to interested race teams than for general public consumption.

Jeff

 

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