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pauljohnson997

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What should I consider doing if I have to drop out the engine on my 2009 997 Gen 2 PDK?
Are there should/must do’s that would be wise to consider? Might as well whilst I‘m in there!

Appreciate your thoughts/knowledge.
Many thanks


 
Hi,
I would check the the following:
1. The condition of the 2 water pipes running from radiators to the engine as these cannot be replaced when the engine is in place.
2. The condition of rear brake pipes from back to front
3. The condition of coolant tank, if it is more than 10 years old you need to replace as the plastic material starts to break down and also it may be dis-coloured which indicates the plastic is braking down. This is relatively easy to replace when engine is out of the car and much more difficult to do when the engine is in place.
4. Consider replacing the clutch depending on the mileage that the car has done.

I had an engine rebuild on my 997 last year and the above items were identified that should be replaced as a matter of course due the age of the components. Hope this helps to give you some guidance.
 
Paul

Interestingly my 997 failed it’s MOT on the rear brake pipe so it is an engine out job for replacement. Strasse are carrying out the work, and recommended coolant pipes at the same time, and we have also discussed the oil separator. No clutch to worry about on mine as it is Tiptronic! Expensive MOT failure though!
 
J99NNO said:
Just out of interest Paul, what are you having the engine taking out for?
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Steve,
The reason is because of identified bore scoring, requiring a full engine rebuild.
Despite what is often (incorrectly) stated about the Gen 2 997, they are not immune to this affliction, I believe they have simply not been around as long as the earlier models have and so they haven’t begun to show their vulnerabilities yet and so there are fewer turning up at the specialists to have the work done = less coverage of the underlying problem.
Talk to the guys at Hartech (other brands are available), and they will tell you that there is no such thing as a "bullet-proof” 911 engine , not even the Gen2. They simply haven’t done the miles -or more likely- they haven’t simply been around long enough YET for the problems to show. They are now slowly showing themselves and many Porsche engineers are anticipating that more will follow. My engineer is anticipating having recurring business following mine, so is very much looking after me and enjoying the venture into new territory.
Having had a 996, a Gen 1 997 and now a Gen 2, I didn’t walk into this blind, having a sneaky feeling that this would some day come down the line. So, a warning to all prospective buyers of a Gen 2, don’t believe the hype that many YouTube "salesmen”/performers and current owners like to spout or believe that the Gen 2 "is the one to get” to avoid all those problems with the other generations, these engines -all of them- are high performance, prima donna’s that are fragile to both under/over/bad usage, so I would suggest any owner who has a 10 y/o + 997 gen 2, to start saving!
Just my pennies-worth! (-That is all I have left in the bank account ????)
 
Paul,

Very sorry to hear about your problem, especially since it’s bore scoring on a Gen2 engine. As you say the Gen2 engine isn’t immune to the problem, although I suspect that its occurrence probably is rarer than for the Gen1 engine perhaps in part owing to the use of Alusil rather than Lokasil for the block and also from lessons learned during Gen1 production.

I have a 2009 Gen2 987 Cayman so your comments are of particular interest to me and others in the Cayman fraternity. Can I ask what is the mileage on your car and also what type of bore repair your specialist is planning? I presume that re-sleeving will be required? Is it just one cylinder that’s been affected and if so, which one?

Jeff
 
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