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2021/04/10 19:11:09 (permalink)

Front Bonnet Release cable broken

Good afternoon,
Urgent help, guidance and suggestions needed.
My bonnet release cable has broken so that I cannot open it. Reading the manual and other ligature there is supposed to be an emergency release inside the nearside front wheel arch. I have taken off the wheel arch liners, but so far no sign of the cable, even though I have seen such a cable inside the boot.
So, what now. If I feel behind the release leaver inside the car I believe I can feel so bits of a broken cable, so may be I should dismantle t hat leaver and see if there is enough cable to pull on withe some mole grips. If that fails I have no idea where to go. So any help I can get would be very much appreciated.
It is a fairly urgent problem because without my battery conditioner connected and that will present a whole new set of problems. 
Kind regards,
Michael Taverner. 

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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/10 20:15:05 (permalink)
Where do you think the cable broke? Its quite common for the plastic part of the handle down by your right shin to snap, if you can see some cable use a pair of pliers on the cable to open
 
 

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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/10 20:38:56 (permalink)
have you had a good look for the emergency release... it's up behind the forward plastic liner,  behind the headlight washer bottle and ac condensor if you have it
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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/11 05:29:37 (permalink)
Michael, I think there is a small clue here !
 
you have dismantled the near side wheel arch .. the bonnet release, last time I did mine, is in the off (driver's side).
 
You may have more luck there !
 
If you are relying on an Adrian Streather 'workshop manual', I suggest you throw it away or find a gullible buyer, and buy the Bentley one, or just rely on your old friends at Rennlist etc, but be wary of the LHD differences.
 
My very best regards to you, as always.
 
I trust you have enjoyed your copy of the 1/2 German 993 book, I still have 2 ! Both inscribed, the second correctly to me personally, the first to PCGB in the mistaken belief in the author's mind that our club would actually cough up to indulge a Register Secretary's thirst for knowledge .. For sale to appropriate archivists, or rich enthusiasts with a thirst for knowledge or a suitably large coffee table .. !
 
cheers, Maurice
 

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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/11 08:06:46 (permalink)
the emergency bonnet release, which is the focus of identification here,  is in the near side (passenger) wheel arch on rhd... the normal release is of course on on the offside (drivers), but I don't think that's what the OP is trying to locate. 
 
for those of us who currently have a working frunk, you can see the emergency release bare wire cable running along the inner wing above the battery and exiting the wing near the headlight adjusters.... that's where it needs to be picked up on the other side of the inner wing in the event of a failure of the main mechanism.
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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/11 08:31:30 (permalink)
You are in the correct wheel arch to look for the emergency cable (LHS), it is thin and easily missed though!

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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/11 13:48:23 (permalink)
Maybe Michael is yanking too hard in his later years ..
 
My point is that the principal bonnet release is on the RHS, Driver's or off side. Michael says the cab end is loose, if it's gone nearby you should be able to make the end available to yank and thereby open the bonnet.
 
Then perhaps refresh your memory of the emergency cable if the worst happens ! #or just look it all up in PET like any normal person wuld ..
 
cheers,
 
Maurice

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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/11 19:38:08 (permalink)
Hi All,
 
I am very pleased to able to report that the bonnet is now open. As "Classic" confirms and as I already knew, the emergency cable is within the near side wheel arch buried in amongst other cables and air conditioning pipes and is very difficult to find as well as being a little further forward than I though.Anyway threaded a short length of cord through the loop to gain pulling power and the bonnet open. For which I breathed a hug sigh of relief.
 
Checking further within the drivers side and there was a washer with  a open slot cut in it which had failed meaning the release cable was not connect to the opening lever.
The cable itself was not broken it was this washer/retainer, which had failed see the Pet Parts book for the bonnet and part numbers either 28 or 29.
I was fed up by the end of the afternoon so, with a more relaxed min I put the car back into the garage.
 
I have to say that the whole incident has left me with a lot of questions which need to be addressed. Suppose you were away on holiday with all you tools and jack locked in a boot that you cannot open.
 
I will take some pictures and post a more detail explanation together with some thoughts as to the modifications to be made to the emergency system to give peace of mind.
Meanwhile thank you all for you input and suggestions, it is nice to know that you are not alone.
 
Kind regards
Michael 
 
 
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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/12 07:27:34 (permalink)
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Hi All,
 
I am very pleased to able to report that the bonnet is now open. As "Classic" confirms and as I already knew, the emergency cable is within the near side wheel arch buried in amongst other cables and air conditioning pipes and is very difficult to find as well as being a little further forward than I though.Anyway threaded a short length of cord through the loop to gain pulling power and the bonnet open. For which I breathed a hug sigh of relief.
 
Checking further within the drivers side and there was a washer with  a open slot cut in it which had failed meaning the release cable was not connect to the opening lever.
The cable itself was not broken it was this washer/retainer, which had failed see the Pet Parts book for the bonnet and part numbers either 28 or 29.
I was fed up by the end of the afternoon so, with a more relaxed min I put the car back into the garage.
 
I have to say that the whole incident has left me with a lot of questions which need to be addressed. Suppose you were away on holiday with all you tools and jack locked in a boot that you cannot open.
 
I will take some pictures and post a more detail explanation together with some thoughts as to the modifications to be made to the emergency system to give peace of mind.
Meanwhile thank you all for you input and suggestions, it is nice to know that you are not alone.
 
Kind regards
Michael 


 
Michael is usually a gentlemanly and courteous chap, but has failed to meet his usual standards on this occasion ..
 
My approach was immediately to focus on the real issue, getting the bonnet open  ..
 
Herewith personal advice given after Michael pm'd me .. 1354 ..
 
Hi Michael
 
As your handle is loose, it might be that the end of the cable is visible for you to grab and pull ..
 
If not , refer to PET for clarity of the locations
 
Cheers, Maurice
 
Just sayin' ....
 
 
post edited by MoC2S - 2021/04/12 07:38:55

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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/12 07:43:08 (permalink)
Should be a politician......................

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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/12 07:46:22 (permalink)
T911UK
Should be a politician......................



Now listen, all the votes have been counted ..

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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/12 09:28:29 (permalink)
Good morning Maurice,
I have read your your post of this morning with some surprise. I have known you throughout my 993 ownership and have always appreciated your superior knowledge and advice on all 993 matters. So if I have failed to reach the correct  standards on this exchange I can do no more than apologise. The reason I sent you a pm, was because I felt it would be useful to have a chat, as we have in the past, and knew that you would not give a phone number on an open forum. nobody would.
I admit that I became a little stressed over this matter, since if I could not get the bonnet open before the coming weekend, when I go to stay with my "bubble", my problems would mount up, with a flat battery when I returned.
I appreciated your advice, Maurice, and if I did not come up to the correct standard on this occasion, I can only apologise.   
Kind regards,
Michael
 
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Re: Front Bonnet Release cable broken 2021/04/14 01:35:26 (permalink)
Oh, Michael, my old friend ..
 
Have I never teased you before ? I'm afraid I'm getting more impish and dishonourable as I slide gently into early middle age !
 
 
So sorry !! .. I hereby award you a few spanners .. ..

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