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2021/02/19 16:37:00 (permalink)

PPF Recommendation

Greetings All,
 
I am looking for a recommendation on a firm within reasonable distance from Guildford that could do some additional PPF work.  I got the standard PPF from the factory, but the rear wheel arches and sill on the 992 could really use some extra protection.
 
If you have first hand experience with a firm and are happy with the results, it would be very helpful to hear from you.
 
Many thanks,
 
Don
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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/19 17:46:03 (permalink)
Sorry, I can't help with a recommendation near Guilford but I did get some feedback from the firm doing my front-end PPF (in a few weeks) on the logistics of doing the sills and rear arches.
 
They made a couple of points which ultimately dissuaded me from having sills/rear quarters done which might be worth considering.
 
The sills are joined to the rear wheel arch so doing sills alone doesn't yield a seamless result; they can do it but not as good a result as they would like; I am going to discuss this with them again when I drop the car off.  The PPF shark fin already fitted to the rear arches can be problematic to remove; they hadn't experienced issues but had heard of others having problems removing them and causing damage to underlying paint; maybe the factory fitted shark fin is applied to the paint before its fully hardened off?  Doing only partial coverage of rear arch is not possible without leaving a visible line so if you want a seamless look, you end up doing whole rear quarter.  Having done that, you may as well have whole rear end PPF'd. 
 
As I said, that's the feedback I got.  No way did I get the sense the chap I spoke to was trying to sell me a full PPF, he was happy to do waht I wanted and I felt he was genuinely trying to point out possible downsides.


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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/20 06:55:49 (permalink)
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Sorry, I can't help with a recommendation near Guilford but I did get some feedback from the firm doing my front-end PPF (in a few weeks) on the logistics of doing the sills and rear arches.
 
They made a couple of points which ultimately dissuaded me from having sills/rear quarters done which might be worth considering.
 
The sills are joined to the rear wheel arch so doing sills alone doesn't yield a seamless result; they can do it but not as good a result as they would like; I am going to discuss this with them again when I drop the car off.  The PPF shark fin already fitted to the rear arches can be problematic to remove; they hadn't experienced issues but had heard of others having problems removing them and causing damage to underlying paint; maybe the factory fitted shark fin is applied to the paint before its fully hardened off?  Doing only partial coverage of rear arch is not possible without leaving a visible line so if you want a seamless look, you end up doing whole rear quarter.  Having done that, you may as well have whole rear end PPF'd. 
 
As I said, that's the feedback I got.  No way did I get the sense the chap I spoke to was trying to sell me a full PPF, he was happy to do waht I wanted and I felt he was genuinely trying to point out possible downsides.


 
The 992 rear wheel arches, like all 911s are prone to stone chipping and the factory fitted shark fin offers some protection, but not nearly enough IMHO.
 
I had the front end PPF option fitted at the factory, but chose to add additional PPF from a recommendation by Mike Trotter, R22 RO, before using the car on the road.
 
Using the same company that Mike suggested, the factory fitted shark fin protection on the rear wheel arch was easily removed and replaced with a single piece of PPF that covered a larger section of the rear wheel arch and the full length of the sill. This was one piece.  The factory size shark fin was replicated and then fitted on top of this to provide an additional and sacrificial layer.  This can be replaced quite easily.  
 
Of course, as with any PPF, there has to be an ‘edge’ but if this is done correctly it is hardly noticeable and there has to be a balance between protection of the paint and visibility.

I doubt very much that the factory would go anywhere near a painted body shell before the paint has been fully hardened in the ovens.
 
I had my 992 done in November by Black Magic Detailing in Carlisle and it’s worth every penny spent!
www.blackmagicdetailing.co.uk
 
 


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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/20 12:49:20 (permalink)
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Sorry, I can't help with a recommendation near Guilford but I did get some feedback from the firm doing my front-end PPF (in a few weeks) on the logistics of doing the sills and rear arches.
 
They made a couple of points which ultimately dissuaded me from having sills/rear quarters done which might be worth considering.
 
The sills are joined to the rear wheel arch so doing sills alone doesn't yield a seamless result; they can do it but not as good a result as they would like; 

I had my TTS gloss black sills PPF'd after several stone chips at just 179 miles, which was very disappointing, but my dealer kindly re-painted them and the car was then transported to Bristol for the PPF work, done by Topaz. They also have a place in London.


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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/20 14:01:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RichardPCGB 2021/02/22 17:48:24
Hi Don,
 
I use Autotrilogy but as they're in Bristol may be too far from you. They've done all mine.
 
Thanks again for your answer regarding Innodrive.
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/20 16:04:28 (permalink)
May be a bit far, but KDS Keltec in Gillingham, Kent would be worth a look. I didn’t go for PPF so can’t give a first hand view but i did have those guys prep and apply ceramic and they are very good.
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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/20 17:03:47 (permalink)
Hi Don
 
you should try NVN motor works at Park Royal, london
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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/22 12:21:49 (permalink)
Thank you for the recommendation.  I spoke with Joe today and will get my car in for some additional PPF work.  Taking the helpful feedback from others, I will have the rear of the car covered as well to make things easier with seams.
 
I will provide some feedback on my experience after the work is done.
 
Thanks all,
 
Don
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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/22 17:47:52 (permalink)
Damian at Autotrilogy is the best. He did my Cayman last year and is currently removing a wrap from my recently acquired 2020 992 C2 before I take delivery then he will be doing the PPF and coatings when he can fit me in next month. Cannot recommend him highly enough.  

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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/23 09:34:11 (permalink)
I'm having my car done when it arrives, full frontal PPF along with side sills and extended rear wing shark fins. Speaking to many it seems like it's definitely worth the initial outlay. 

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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/23 13:31:03 (permalink)
Please could I ask what the general view of the factory fitted PPF is? I have had six previous 911's and never bothered with PPF and just accepted I was going to get chips so would need a respray at some point. I did have PPF on my McLaren 720 which was installed by Reep in Bristol who did a good job but after a few years the PPF started to look very tatty especially on the underside of the doors. I also had PPF on the windscreen which worked well and stopped chips but generally not a fan of PPF

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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/23 14:13:34 (permalink)
As far as I can tell, there isn't such a thing as factory fitted. The local dealers just send it out to be done by a 3rd party before handover .
 
Damian from Autotrilogy has a McLaren 720 himself. His place is always full of just sold supercars waiting for their "factory fitted" PPF :-)
 
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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/23 14:44:33 (permalink)
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Greetings All,
 
I am looking for a recommendation on a firm within reasonable distance from Guildford that could do some additional PPF work.  I got the standard PPF from the factory, but the rear wheel arches and sill on the 992 could really use some extra protection.
 
If you have first hand experience with a firm and are happy with the results, it would be very helpful to hear from you.
 
Many thanks,
 
Don


Hi I would 100% recommend Procare near Horsham if you are near Guildford , Tom there has xpel PPF my 911 GTS , GT3 and 718 Boxster T , prices are reasonable and his attention to detail is second to none - I had the car in there last week for some more coverage pre track days and he’s currently doing a limited edition Bentley 9 , McLaren apex RHD 720 and GT3 RS - he’s recently done a Senna . No affiliation but his work is exceptional 

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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/23 17:57:23 (permalink)
Bob,
 
The factory fitted film was poor initially, but subsequent application appears to have improved. I believe Peter spec'd it for his 992 and was happy with the result.
 
I think you have to take a view whether it's beneficial or not as I recall Gary scraped his 12C in an underground car park in Monaco and it cost double to repair because of both paintwork AND ppf replacement. 
 
The advantage with aftermarket ppf is this is normally done following paint correction, so the underlying surface is always perfect before the film goes on.
 
If you do decide to go down this route, give me a ring as I have a good bloke here locally who will look after you. 
 
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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/26 09:45:15 (permalink)
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Damian at Autotrilogy is the best. He did my Cayman last year and is currently removing a wrap from my recently acquired 2020 992 C2 before I take delivery then he will be doing the PPF and coatings when he can fit me in next month. Cannot recommend him highly enough.  




Yes I agree; Autotrilogy are excellent. They've done 6 of my collection in the last couple of years. Toyota Yaris GR due in June and they'll be doing that too. I have no commercial tie in with Damien by the way.
 
Thanks,
 
Simon
 
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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/26 12:46:09 (permalink)
All,
 
Thank you very much for all of your helpful advice and contributions.  It is really nice to have a community of interested and informed owners.  I ended up taking my car to NVN thanks to the great advice from Ashtonc.  Horsham would have been much closer but I had already delivered my car for work.  I will keep Procare in mind for the future.
 
My car will be with NVN for a few days.  The work area and lounge at NVN is remarkable and absolutely spotless as you would expect.  They are working on a number of Ferraris as well so I hope my car does not pick up any bad habits from the other in-house guests.
 
I will try to attached some work in progress photos below.
 
Thanks again for all of your collective help.  The NVN photographer will be back next week to take some photos after the work is done and I will share the finished product.
 
All the best,

Don
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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/26 13:04:51 (permalink)
That looks amazing and look forward to more photos.

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Re: PPF Recommendation 2021/02/26 19:12:27 (permalink)
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