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964 C4 engine removal

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andrew911
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2020/10/26 20:03:23 (permalink)

964 C4 engine removal

Greetings
 
Planning on removing the engine and gearbox to fit a new clutch and do as many other jobs as I can whilst I am in there
 
my main q is I have this ramp 
https://www.automotechservices.co.uk/products/as-7530d-garage-scissor-lift/
 
has anyone recommendations on something to take the engine and gearbox onto to lower it down from the vehicle 
 
I have been looking at hydraulic trolleys like this
 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Scissor-Hydraulic-Lifting-Platform-Trolley/dp/B01ANZWKUO/ref=asc_df_B01ANZWKUO/?tag=bingshoppinga-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=&hvpos=&hvnetw=o&hvrand=&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584482457925418&psc=1
 
my main objectives are
 
safe- I will be doing this on my own, no damage to engine/gearbox 
 
can leave it on the trolley a while, to work on it 
 
easy to reposition for installation 
 
anyone experience of doing this - what's worked well for you ?
 
thank you in advance 

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Re: 964 C4 engine removal 2020/10/26 20:38:50 (permalink)
Hi Andrew
I dropped my engine and gearbox  a couple of years ago on my own using a similar scissor lift for the car and three trolley jacks. The car lift was great, the three trolley jacks balancing the engine and gearbox was tricky to say the least. I think the platform you are looking at would be a safer bet. Even better if you could have a frame to support the engine /gearbox assembly which bolts to the platform to avoid the balancing act I had. Great if you can get a second pair of hands but I know not many people like to get getting their hands dirty. Good luck Peter

 

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Re: 964 C4 engine removal 2020/10/26 20:54:31 (permalink)
Peter - thanks for the speedy response and photos that's hugely valuable for me. I just didn't want to embark on the process and find myself in some awkward position where I cant go forward or back wards or worse still drop the lot and damage it or myself £££ -  I fractured my spine last year, and have used up all my good boy tokens with the wife so burying myself under an engine and gearbox are to be avoided for marital stability!  
 
I think investing in that trolley is a no brainier now - I got some sorting to do in the shed, and then we can start 
I just watched a time-lapse video I hadn't seen before of a guy rebuilding a 964 engine and he used something similar so this is all good news 
I hope your c4 restoration is going well. 
 
 
 
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Re: 964 C4 engine removal 2020/10/27 11:59:19 (permalink)
Your need a variety of jacks and lifts as its a heavy unit . Depending on how you plan to get the car high enough this needs to be taken into account to roll the engine out . I used a trolley I made years go as its low so the car doesn't need to go as high .

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Re: 964 C4 engine removal 2020/10/30 16:02:38 (permalink)
Oh wow, this is great, I want to eventually rebuild my engine and dropping it out seems to be the hard bit when in a garage at home.
 
I was going to buy QuickJacks but I don't think they will go high enough. 

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Re: 964 C4 engine removal 2020/10/30 16:36:56 (permalink)
Correct height is the issue, on one side I have hydraulic trolley table and the right side I have hydraulic Motor Bike lift and in the middle a high lift trolley jack.
 
Once it was out I split it off the gearbox then lifted (via an engine lift), onto the Engine stand and mounted it on the Porsche mount so I could rotate the engine and take it all apart etc , see my rebuild thread in the signature, as some of this is in there .
 
Seems like yesterday I did all this but it was years ago ;-) and Ive since taken it out for a Diff bearing rebuild a couple of years ago . 

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Coupe C2 964 MY92 Tiptronic (Engine rebuild featured in "Total 911" Jan 2008), Car on show at Autosport 2009.
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Re: 964 C4 engine removal 2020/10/31 09:29:15 (permalink)
On rennlist i believe people have dropped an engine with quickjacks.  To do that they jacked up car put it on stands, raised the quick jacks on planks of wood and then reraised to a higher height.  Obviously, if you can get a lift that takes you high enough then better to do that, but just in case that isn't an option.
 
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