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chrisg

chrisg

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Hi

Not one for huge nerdy technical specs but....

Later Turbo models had:

1. 250bhp

2. Wider wheels - 7.5 & 9.0

3. Silver Rose & SE versions had the CS Mag wheels

4. Very late version had D90 wheels

5. Gearbox was LSD AND with oil cooler - might have been ratio differences and 1/2nd gear hardened

6. Silver Rose versions didnt have sunroofs and also had a. Dodgy silver/pink paint b. Very dodgy pink tartan cloth interior

7. Larger S4 from brakes & Calipers - still same @ rear

think that's it but bound to have missed something

C

 
Hi Guy's
Please excuse me for being lazy and not looking through previous threads on this subject (which I am sure there are plenty)
but could someone kindly tell me the differences (apart from the bhp) between an 87' 944 Turbo and later 250bhp models.

thanks in advance.

 
250 cars had K26/8 turbo instead of 26/6 'silver rose' and following year 89 (often called SE but not offcially) had Koni yellow shocks, 90 on cars dropped them for sachs / boge sprung to same rate, both options probably need replacing / rebuilding by now anyway.

All 250 cars had LSD and gearbox and cooler coil.

90 on cars had a bridge spoiler in place of rubber spoiler.

Majority of post silver rose cars had a sunroof, but there are one or 2 with it deleted.

Last 'silver rose' cars came in different colours trim.

180mph speedo came in at some point could have been with 250BHP cars

I don't think silver rose cars (especially in pink) were special enough to command a premium over the later ones, and really the differences to earlier cars shouldn't make too much difference either - Condition is the important thing!

If you are planning a big power build 250 car base is an advantage unless you are going really big then you will replace most of it anyway!

Tony

 
Thanks for the reply Tony,

Some of useful info there, so basically apart from 30bhp and LSD not much between the two!?

Not too bothered about the Rose editions or their colour schemes (no offence) or extra premiums! but I do totally agree that condition is everything (as long as it's Red with black interior)[:D]

 
Yes not massive differences - I have seen 250 cars that drive slower than 220 cars and was going to say the reverse but actually never driven a 220 car - I have been a passenger though. My preference was to buy one (well two) of the last - I like the bridge spoiler, I prefer the 10 speaker interior and sports seats in leather. I like a sunroof (especially now I have a glass one) and the bigger brakes.

Tony

 
Thanks Tony,

I was thinking of getting a later turbo (or S2) as generally the run out model usually gets all the goodies/upgrades but won't rule out the earlier model as long as it meets my criteria of speck and mainly condition.

Cheers.

 
The earlier the car the lighter it is and closest to Porsche's original design. The early offset cars are better for steer in more predictable and as stated, lighter. The 86 is approx 100kg lighter than the last models. Also Porsche noted when asked that for driving on the road the early car was faster. Look into the differences closely before choosing, there are many.

Pete

 
'85-86' they then gain weight each year as stricter safety rules come in, ie ABS and airbags, later offset with bigger wheels/tyres etc...plus more luxury....'86' only the drivers seat is electric...if you've ever tried to lift the electric seat compared to manual you'll know the difference.

 
cheers for that Pete, i guess my 87 is the next lightest then? but it has both full electric seats , and yes i’ve had them out a few times on both my 944 for a deep clean and there bloody lumps of weight mate with all the motors ect!

could really see stripping the interia out in one of these modded turbos would be a serious eye opener compared to having the full interia. i would choose the comfort myself but it would be good to have another lightened right up track spec for the roads! this was my plan few years back with my lux in naturally aspirated form but the house extension took all my saved funds for it.

 
Dan944t said:
could really see stripping the interia out in one of these modded turbos would be a serious eye opener compared to having the full interia. i would choose the comfort myself but it would be good to have another lightened right up track spec for the roads! this was my plan few years back with my lux in naturally aspirated form but the house extension took all my saved funds for it.
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The cars that ran in the Porsche cup in the late 90's got their weight down to approx 1000kg or less, this involved removing all under seal. Add slicks and their superior handling and it's easy to see why they outperformed the 996 GT3's of the day.

 
The cars that ran in the Porsche cup in the late 90's got their weight down to approx 1000kg or less, this involved removing all under seal. Add slicks and their superior handling and it's easy to see why they outperformed the 996 GT3's of the day.

yes 100% mate , and i’ve drove a mates GT3 a few times and can agree knowing what my car feels like and that’s with all the heavy gear on it.

there’s allot to be said for carrying that extra weight about. something the older i get i look more into and wonder.

 
Waylander said:
All race cars break now and then, but when you’re decade ahead of the game things break more often
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The 951 was a race car before a road car with the 86 in particular being homologated.....they were also very much ahead of the game, some tech of which found its way into F1, such as the rear diffuser which has also found it's way into many high-performance cars since...they are pretty reliable too.....:)

 
Torque tubes also became popular on fairly recent front engine Ferraris, Maseratis and the merc SLS,

Tony

 
Waylander said:
All race cars break now and then, but when you’re decade ahead of the game things break more often
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Except Chapman's designs had a reputation for fragility. As Jim Clark found to his cost.

 
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