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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/16 22:09:26 (permalink)
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The wheel alignment centre (https://www.facebook.com/The-Wheel-Alignment-Centre-396151377064652/) in Southampton gets a lot of praise on Pistonheads. I’ve taken my Cayman there, and a Ford Fiesta, the owner operator is very fair and charges only for the adjustments he makes - in fact when I took the Fiesta in he didn’t charge for the initial diagnosis as once on the lift he identified a bent suspension arm. Both times I’ve only paid about £50 as few adjustments were necessary. He only does wheel alignments so will not try to sell you other services.
 


Thanks for the recommendation Andrew, I will have a look. 

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/17 21:56:31 (permalink)
The rear wear does indicate something not right.  someone like Parr will ‘baseline’ it properly for you and also give you good feedback on the steering load.

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 16:58:45 (permalink)
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The rear wear does indicate something not right.  someone like Parr will ‘baseline’ it properly for you and also give you good feedback on the steering load.


What would a normal wear pattern for the rear tyres be?

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 17:22:33 (permalink)
Given the negative camber they should wear more on the inside … I had thought that your Inner - Outer numbers were maybe reversed 

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 17:34:09 (permalink)
It could be due to excessive toe-in Mark. As said, a full geometry check would identify anything out of spec and requiring correction.
 
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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 19:19:53 (permalink)
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Given the negative camber they should wear more on the inside … I had thought that your Inner - Outer numbers were maybe reversed 


It is the outer edges on both rears that have worn more. I received a video from my OPC and the Tech had written in white the values on the tyres.

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 19:27:39 (permalink)
Does anyone know what the geometry settings should be for my Cayman? It's a 718 base model on 19" wheels and PASM (10mm lower)?
 
Or will I only be able to get this from my OPC or a tyre specialist?

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 19:37:54 (permalink)
Mine are in my Owners Manual 

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 19:39:21 (permalink)
I am getting a bit frustrated with my OPC. I have been chasing the Service Advisor up for a response to an email I sent on the 8th October as I wanted to know what if anything further can be done to regarding the steering weight issue and also the cost for two new rear tyres as they are approaching 3mm and OPC says Porsche recommend changing tyres at 3mm. He asked whether I would be happier if they checked the front Geometry, which I said yes. I got the feeling they might do this FOC though he didn't commit to this.
 
I last spoke to him on Friday and he said he would email me by the end of the day. It's now end of Tuesday and still no response.
 
I don't want to get the Car geometry checked elsewhere until I know what my OPC might do. But equally I would like to get the geometry checked and tyres replaced sooner rather than later.
 

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 19:40:45 (permalink)
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Mine are in my Owners Manual 


Ok, thanks. I will go and check mine. 

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 20:03:27 (permalink)
Are you happy to share the video and / or take a screenshot ?   
 
See attached my previous 981 CS for reference … the 718 CGTS is similar, your`s maybe also be 
 
(Settings being the small print in the green blocks) 
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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 20:32:19 (permalink)
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Mine are in my Owners Manual 


Ok, thanks. I will go and check mine. 


I have had a look in my manual in the logical places, 'Technical Data' and 'Tyres & Wheels' sections and I can't find any mention of wheel alignment settings.

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 20:35:53 (permalink)
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Are you happy to share the video and / or take a screenshot ?   
 
See attached my previous 981 CS for reference … the 718 CGTS is similar, your`s maybe also be 
 
(Settings being the small print in the green blocks) 


Thanks for sharing.
 
Here's the hyperlink to the health check video https://video.citnow.com/vtVRNw67DtW
 

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 21:06:46 (permalink)
I have a Chassis Set Up section at the rear, noted in the front index … GT4 only perhaps 
 
Video not available but noted the comments re. rear tread and pressures … as others have said, has to be an alignment check next 
 
 

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/20 21:37:51 (permalink)
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I have a Chassis Set Up section at the rear, noted in the front index … GT4 only perhaps 
 
Video not available but noted the comments re. rear tread and pressures … as others have said, has to be an alignment check next 
 
 


Thanks, I'll give my OPC another call tomorrow and see if I can get things progressed. 
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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/21 08:26:10 (permalink)
Perhaps Brian Innes will have a before & after adjustment geometry printout from his old 718 GTS Cayman? He may not follow this forum now so it might be worth PM’ing him. 

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/21 08:58:13 (permalink)
In here … https://www.718forum.com/threads/stock-suspension-geometry.21050/
 
Also in here … https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1015965&mpage=7 … page 7 post 123 
 
 
 
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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/21 09:20:32 (permalink)
Mark,
 
Whatever the spec values are, with that rear tyre wear pattern I would recommend getting a geo check and any necessary adjustment done before investing in some new tyres.
 
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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/21 11:17:38 (permalink)
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here … https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1015965&mpage=7 … page 7 post 123


Good searching Andrew 👍

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Re: Steering Heavier Than Usual 2020/10/21 11:22:42 (permalink)
mr pg
Does your car have power steering plus optioned? Maybe be another avenue to persue.



Did the OP ever confirm whether or not his car has the Power Steering Plus option? I can’t help wondering whether this is not giving the extra assistance at lower speeds.

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