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Parking brake fault - 981

DWaldie

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Got in the car today to be greeted with a parking brake fault (and no stop/start). I couldn't get rid of it without turning the car on and off. It has been fine since I did so and it sounded like it was operating normally.

Has this been identified by others, and is there a simple explanation?

Thanks,

David
 
David

They may not be linked issues. Stop start will not work until the car is up to temperature and also due to various other factors.

I am not familiar with parking brake issues - other that the frustration that the electric ones cause. Another topic for our Zoom call tomorrow.

 
Does the parking brake direction begin to make sense at some point?

Had mine since the end of Feb & still push/pull the wrong direction every time!

 
mj2k said:
Does the parking brake direction begin to make sense at some point?

Had mine since the end of Feb & still push/pull the wrong direction every time!

It has taken me a year to just about get used to it, but only because I reverse off the drive, which means I move the switch in the direction of travel. Not my favourite aspect of the drive.

Apparently, if you apply it when travelling, it performs an emergency stop. Braking all four wheels. That might be useful sometime 😮

 
mj2k said:
Does the parking brake direction begin to make sense at some point?

Had mine since the end of Feb & still push/pull the wrong direction every time!
I think of it as a brake pedal - push for on, pull for off. But it is counter intuitive I agree.

 
[/quote] I think of it as a brake pedal - push for on, pull for off. But it is counter intuitive I agree.

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That's a better aide memoire than mine. I'll try to remember it.

 
mj2k said:
Had mine since the end of Feb & still push/pull the wrong direction every time!

If it was standard on all makes of car then we may all get used to it - eventually.

I raised the very same issue with Reading when they lent me a 911 some 5 years ago. The lever was under the dash of the 991 and it really p***ed me off getting it wrong most times.

Needless to say I got no reply.

 
Thankfully I have a [proper!] good old fashion handbrake on my 987.2 CS rather than the 'parking brake' as it's now referred to in the American fashion. In their quest for cleaner centre consoles the interior designers have deigned that the mechanical lever-actuated system is far too big and clumsy and has to be replaced by a non-tactile button, or similar - a bad move in my opinion, but that's just the way things are now that auto 'boxes have become the norm, accompanied by the annoying adoption of foot brake use when stationary in traffic. [I appreciate that's commonly-taught practice these days but I'm old-school and still follow the 'handbrake-on-out-of-gear' procedure on my manual car, which means at least I'm not dazzling the driver immediately behind me].

Although many manufacturers have chosen to place the parking brake switch/button at an ergonomic location on the centre console where it's close to hand, Porsche seem to have chosen about the most inconvenient and non-ergonomic location possible down by your right knee and compounded the error by making its operation totally counter-intuitive - push for on; pull for off! Back-to-front obviously, but then the same could be said for the original Tiptronic/PDK stick operation - push to change-up; pull to change-down - now corrected in the latest models, so Porsche's track record isn't great in that respect. In fact I've long thought that when visiting the Stuttgart design centre you'd be able to pick out the person responsible for switch design - they'd be walking backwards everywhere.!!

Jeff

 
They could have used the stainless "Cayman" botton on the centre console. Press for on and press for off with an associated light. Where it is now, you have to lean forward out of the seat. Definitely not ergonomic 😭

 
SpyderDavid said:
mj2k said:
Does the parking brake direction begin to make sense at some point?

Had mine since the end of Feb & still push/pull the wrong direction every time!
I think of it as a brake pedal - push for on, pull for off. But it is counter intuitive I agree.

That is a really good way to think about it, thanks - I reverse up my drive, so the previous suggestion won't work for me.

Previous poster mentioned middle of the centre console & the cayman button; my wife's E89 Z4 had a ver obvious little lever to pull up / push down (in the correct direction as a handbrake!), so was very intuative from the start. Leaning forwards in these cars is madness.

Agree on the PDK too, interesting to know it has been changed. I've come from an M4 so am scared to use the lever over the paddles for the very reason it is the wrong way around.....such little sense, if hard on the brakes everything is going forward & am expected to pull the stick backwards, same on accelerating; zero logic & am sure it will make me crash when the change does / doesn't happen as & when expected.

The handbrake, gear 'stick' and entertainment system are the only things I don't like, the rest I love vs my M4 (utter mistake of a car that was!)

Sorry for the thread drift!

 
Our SEAT has a little lever in the centre console, pull up to engage and, surprise surprise, push down to release. How hard can it be Porsche - there are some things where it pays to follow the norm.

 
Did you ever discover the cause of e brake warning light . This has come up on mine and it would appear it is a regular occurrence as the MOT history shows it has failed its previous two MOT,s because of it . Thanks

 
Replaced the battery and the problem disappeared. Result 😁 Apparently, when they get old, they throw up a variety of errors. Including this one.

An even better result was getting a battery with five year warranty fitted and coded for less than a quarter of the price of the OPC.

 
Thanks for the reply , I will replace the battery and see what happens. I have had other issues like the alarm going off for no reason and the heater fan just stopped working , could all be related 👍.

 
The heater fan is known to seize if not used regularly. It is situated on the far passenger side underneath the battery cover. You need to prize the cover off the fan housing and spin the fan by hand. Make sure it's switched off first.

I'm sure I've heard of alarm issues with a dying battery.

 
Ive fixed the fan thanks to good old google which was as you said , the alarm required a new module , it’s the same one fitted to VW Polos etc ... battery next ! Love the car but not impressed with with the niggling issues. Thanks again .

 

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