Recommended Headlight Bulbs
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matthewb
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Don't be put off a HID conversion by stories of ballast being stuck in the bumpers with plasticine.
I fitted this HID conversion - https://www.bergvillfx.com/index.php/products/t-light-hid-and-led/t-light-porsche-993-hid-kit-rennlist-discount.html - I'm an idiot and yet I was able to fit it easily. Everything is contained within the light-pods. No hanging wires through holes you've had to drill through the pods. It is very neat and even comes with replacement side-light bulbs to match the colour temperature of the HIDs.
If you insist on staying with Halogen, I'd go with something like https://www.amazon.co.uk/OSRAM-headlight-headlamps-64193CBI-HCB-passenger/dp/B005TSV97G/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&aaxitk=-bbegBK5Y2XOirDK89LPtw&hsa_cr_id=5496581610702&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_1
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I fitted this HID conversion - https://www.bergvillfx.com/index.php/products/t-light-hid-and-led/t-light-porsche-993-hid-kit-rennlist-discount.html - I'm an idiot and yet I was able to fit it easily. Everything is contained within the light-pods. No hanging wires through holes you've had to drill through the pods. It is very neat and even comes with replacement side-light bulbs to match the colour temperature of the HIDs.
If you insist on staying with Halogen, I'd go with something like https://www.amazon.co.uk/OSRAM-headlight-headlamps-64193CBI-HCB-passenger/dp/B005TSV97G/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&aaxitk=-bbegBK5Y2XOirDK89LPtw&hsa_cr_id=5496581610702&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_1
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I'm using Osram Nightbreakers in my main beam (and was using them in dipped beam too until I converted them). They are definitely much brighter than cheaper halogen bulbs. Downside is they don't last as long but I'd prefer to see where I'm going and put up with changing bulbs more often.
I've just remembered that I've bought (but not yet fitted) some LED bulbs for the main beam. Now I wonder where I've put them. . .
I've just remembered that I've bought (but not yet fitted) some LED bulbs for the main beam. Now I wonder where I've put them. . .
Hi there,
For my 993 headlights, I upgraded to the Philips X-treme Vision H1 bulbs and would recommend them as a good upgrade for a modest investment.
Philips 0730221 12258-XVS2 H1 X-Treme Power +100% Headlight Bulbs (A Pair)
Link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00440CWBC/
Good luck with the upgrade and enjoy the drive! [
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For my 993 headlights, I upgraded to the Philips X-treme Vision H1 bulbs and would recommend them as a good upgrade for a modest investment.
Philips 0730221 12258-XVS2 H1 X-Treme Power +100% Headlight Bulbs (A Pair)
Link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00440CWBC/
Good luck with the upgrade and enjoy the drive! [
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Would highly recommend the Bergville HID kit. Did mine 4 years ago along with all exterior bulbs too. So much brighter with no modifications to do. Headlights take 5 mins max a side to convert. The other bulbs just replace the old lamp like for like.
Tore is a great guy and they their stuff
You should find a post that I did somewhere in the 993 forum and some pics too
Graham
Tore is a great guy and they their stuff
You should find a post that I did somewhere in the 993 forum and some pics too
Graham
matthewb
New member
Hi Chap
Hope you can help.
I have the Bergville HID upgrade installed, but still with regular bulbs (although powerful by Halogen standards) for the bright-beam.
Please could you tell me why I shouldn't replace the dipped-beam HIDs with LEDs. Not that I want to necessarily, I just don't understand what HIDs have that LEDs do not.
Which LEDs do you use for the bright-beams?
Thanks
Hope you can help.
I have the Bergville HID upgrade installed, but still with regular bulbs (although powerful by Halogen standards) for the bright-beam.
Please could you tell me why I shouldn't replace the dipped-beam HIDs with LEDs. Not that I want to necessarily, I just don't understand what HIDs have that LEDs do not.
Which LEDs do you use for the bright-beams?
Thanks
matthewb
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I've been in touch with Tore Bergvill recently to research his opinion on LEDs, specifically when used in the high-beam to complement Tore's dipped-beam HID system, rather than the regular (but bright) Halogens I currently use for high-beam.. Here it is ...
[blockquote]We have tried a LOT of LED solutions in the 993 headlight, and none has come up to HIDs with respect to light output patterns, colour and output intensity. This is especially the case for the low beam projector lens.
We have tried LED's in the high beam reflector light too, and are not pleased with the results of the same reasons.
Halogen bulbs are so far the best lamp to use in the high beam. HIDs and LEDs are producing a lot of light in the car's near field, this is not where we need our full beam lights.
We are working to find a new vendor for our T-LIGHT product, and have a couple of candidates. We hope to get this ready within a month or so.[/blockquote]
Hope this is useful
Very interesting. I trust Tore and I look forward to hearing what he finds.
Johnny C
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My mechanical skills are pretty much near zero and I managed to fit the Tor HID upgrade. 4 screws, poke wires through is about all you need.
I used to drove to work along country lanes, I took my life into my hands until I got the HID upgrade, even with the best normal bulbs I could find. It's not so much that the HIDS light the road up, it's more that your eyes get used to the level of light, so when a new car with bright headlights comes the other way you get blinded. HIDs sort that out.
I think the LED vs. HID is just a matter of time, but it's because HID is a point of light that's easy to direct forwards, an LED is a large square of light going in every direction so it hard to direct. I've got an LED head torch that is brighter than my HID Headlights, but it lights up the whole road, it doesn't point forward. You could use LEDs plenty of new cars do, but the headlamp internal reflectors would need to be redesigned to focus the light forward. There's not enough 993s around for anyone to bother, the mouldings costs would be astronomical.
Fortunately, the MOT doesn't delve too far into HID upgrades so far, technically that are all a fail from when I've read as a HID should have self-levelling and all we have is the wheel to do it manually. But there's not enough 993's for the govt to worry about.
I used to drove to work along country lanes, I took my life into my hands until I got the HID upgrade, even with the best normal bulbs I could find. It's not so much that the HIDS light the road up, it's more that your eyes get used to the level of light, so when a new car with bright headlights comes the other way you get blinded. HIDs sort that out.
I think the LED vs. HID is just a matter of time, but it's because HID is a point of light that's easy to direct forwards, an LED is a large square of light going in every direction so it hard to direct. I've got an LED head torch that is brighter than my HID Headlights, but it lights up the whole road, it doesn't point forward. You could use LEDs plenty of new cars do, but the headlamp internal reflectors would need to be redesigned to focus the light forward. There's not enough 993s around for anyone to bother, the mouldings costs would be astronomical.
Fortunately, the MOT doesn't delve too far into HID upgrades so far, technically that are all a fail from when I've read as a HID should have self-levelling and all we have is the wheel to do it manually. But there's not enough 993's for the govt to worry about.
I've had these in my main beam for two years now, along with tores Hids
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01G6HR2K6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2qHEFbCRWFP9E
currently out of stock on amazon, but available elsewhere and reasonably priced.... give them a go .... i gaurentee these will change anyone's mind about whether led work well in 993 main beam... they're like white flamethrowers with great width and depth.... and I live in deepest darkest Cumbria
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01G6HR2K6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2qHEFbCRWFP9E
currently out of stock on amazon, but available elsewhere and reasonably priced.... give them a go .... i gaurentee these will change anyone's mind about whether led work well in 993 main beam... they're like white flamethrowers with great width and depth.... and I live in deepest darkest Cumbria
i put in hids4u on dip in 2006 there still in now !!!
i do use halogen on main beam +50% brighter bulbs from lidl
how often do u use main beam ? there ok 4 me.
i do use halogen on main beam +50% brighter bulbs from lidl
how often do u use main beam ? there ok 4 me.
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