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991 Carrera T

WAB172uk

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Hi everyone.

Thinking about buying a Carrera T. Just wondered what peoples thoughts are on these cars? Base model with tasty options? Or base model that's not worth the extra money over a standard Carrera?

Was viewing Carfections review and it looks like a great car for my first 911. Had considered a Cayman GT4, but the other half doesn't want to be driven around in a road racer, lol.

Would I be better off in a 991 Carrera S instead? Ideally I'd prefer a 991 Carrera 4 GTS, but they're out of my price range at present.

Is the base Carrera's 370BHP a bit lacklustre? or a good unit for brisk road driving?

Thanks in advance
 
Don't think of it as a "base model" is my advice. I think it is a really good drivers 911 while also comfortable and good for "brisk driving". A fantastic first 911 imho. In time, if you want to, you can easily add to the power for a modest outlay - although 370 is not exactly lacklustre. Look up Litchfield and see what they think of it both straight out of the box and with a bit of tweaking - and they are knowledgeable. Manual or PDK - depends on personal choice - both are excellent. Autocar have also got a good write-up.
 
Thanks for the reply.

I'm looking for a manual car. I've read the Litchfield review Carrera T in Evo. Like you say, lot of power for not much outlay. But if this is to be my first 911, I'd want to keep the Porsche warranty intact.

I was just a bit worried that somehow the T would be seen as just a gimmick. and 2 years down the line the value has tanked compared to a Carrera S.

I've only ever owned one RWD car before, a Nissan 370Z. Bit lively in the wet, and an over enthusiastic traction control made it frustrating to drive in the wet. Have mostly owned AWD performance cars. Have a lovely R8 V8 Manual. What's the traction like in the 911? and what's the Traction control like? well judged or frustrating in the wet?

Cheers
Wayne
 
Hello Wayne,

I own a 991.2 Carrera S – and I'd say for the most part it's too powerful for B-road driving. You just don't need 420hp. On track I am glad I have that extra oomph, but if I'd had a Carrera instead would I miss it? I doubt it.

Traction control – PSM (Porsche Stability Management) – is superb in the 991.2. I've never driven a car with such inconspicuous electronics. Sure, if you're trying to slide it about and PSM is fully on you're going to notice it. But there is a half way house, "PSM Sport" mode. I think this is wonderful for B-road driving. It lets the car shuffle around so it feels a little more 'alive', but will save your bacon from really daft moves. You can have quite a lot of fun with PSM fully off though … https://youtu.be/IMaxVU-w_wY

Traction, generally, is insane. You put your foot down, the weight shifts over the rear wheels, and it fires out of a bend like nothing else. You don't need 4wd. I test drove a Carrera 4 at the PEC Silverstone and for me it 'dulled' the steering. I didn't like it. I run my S with winter tyres during the colder months and even on snow it's grippy.

Compared to the 370z you're going to find the weight balance different, naturally, and it's worth learning the nuances of the 911 to get the best from it. I can't recommend a day with Colin[1] at CAT Driver Training enough (and I'm sure a few more folks on the forum will say the same). Incidentally, he was the test driver during development of the 350z.

I think you'll love the Carrera T. The second generation 991 is a fantastic car (I would say that, ha!)

--Mark

[1] My write up about the day with CAT https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/FindPost/999139
 
I second the CAT endorsement, Colin is fantastic I’ve spent a few days there in my 991.1 GTS and Golf R and worth every penny.

Ive driven the 991.2 GTS and T and they are fantastic cars, seriously quick and effortlessly so. Just a thought but how about a normally aspirated 991.1 GTS, 430 BHP, and sounds fantastic, residuals are also doing pretty well - paid £95k for mine and offered £79k by Porsche dealer after almost 3yrs of motoring and 15,000 miles.

Just a thought, all are great cars.
 
mphillips said:
Hello Wayne,

I own a 991.2 Carrera S – and I'd say for the most part it's too powerful for B-road driving. You just don't need 420hp. On track I am glad I have that extra oomph, but if I'd had a Carrera instead would I miss it? I doubt it.

Traction control – PSM (Porsche Stability Management) – is superb in the 991.2. I've never driven a car with such inconspicuous electronics. Sure, if you're trying to slide it about and PSM is fully on you're going to notice it. But there is a half way house, "PSM Sport" mode. I think this is wonderful for B-road driving. It lets the car shuffle around so it feels a little more 'alive', but will save your bacon from really daft moves. You can have quite a lot of fun with PSM fully off though … https://youtu.be/IMaxVU-w_wY

Traction, generally, is insane. You put your foot down, the weight shifts over the rear wheels, and it fires out of a bend like nothing else. You don't need 4wd. I test drove a Carrera 4 at the PEC Silverstone and for me it 'dulled' the steering. I didn't like it. I run my S with winter tyres during the colder months and even on snow it's grippy.

Compared to the 370z you're going to find the weight balance different, naturally, and it's worth learning the nuances of the 911 to get the best from it. I can't recommend a day with Colin[1] at CAT Driver Training enough (and I'm sure a few more folks on the forum will say the same). Incidentally, he was the test driver during development of the 350z.

I think you'll love the Carrera T. The second generation 991 is a fantastic car (I would say that, ha!)

--Mark

[1] My write up about the day with CAT https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/FindPost/999139



Thanks for the response Mark.

Think I'm pretty sure I'll go for a `T` now. It's just waiting for the right car, right spec, and right price. I'm hoping when the 992 manual comes out, it may bring down the prices of the 991.2 cars.

Prices will be high ATM due to summer months, so again come winter time prices may soften as less people want a sports car for the winter. Will certainly look at booking some time with Colin.

Cheers
Wayne
 
Hi Wayne,

I bought my Carrera T new in April 2018. It has now covered over 19,000 miles and had its first service on Friday at Swindon Porsche Centre.

I love it. It’s my fourth Porsche and my favourite so far! It’s my daily driver and sole car.

Funnily enough it’s at Litchfield Motors right now, having the full T upgrade (with Remus silencer).

I’ll post an update on here when I get my car back.

Hopefully you’ll find the right T for you!

Cheers,

Simon
 
Simon991 said:
Funnily enough it’s at Litchfield Motors right now, having the full T upgrade (with Remus silencer).

I’ll post an update on here when I get my car back.


Ooo, now that sounds exciting Simon! (no pun intended). I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the Remus. I'm due a visit to Litchfield soon – been talking to Sam about test driving their Carrera T as I'm pondering some of the modifications for my Carrera S.
 
mphillips said:
Ooo, now that sounds exciting Simon! (no pun intended). I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the Remus. I'm due a visit to Litchfield soon – been talking to Sam about test driving their Carrera T as I'm pondering some of the modifications for my Carrera S.


It was driving Iain Litchfield‘s Carrera T that sold me on the full package!

Blew me away! When I drove it, it was GT Silver. They’ve now painted it in Oak Green Metallic!

Cheers,

Simon
 
I'm quite excited to test drive it. Although I'm worried it will make me want a manual gearbox again … :)

I presume the mods invalidate what's left of your Porsche warranty?
 
mphillips said:
I presume the mods invalidate what's left of your Porsche warranty?


That is certainly a danger, at least if any future potential warranty claim could be linked to one of the mods. But heck, you only live once...!! [;)]
 
You should be OK with manufacturer's warranty until April 2020, after which extended warranty comes into effect and the modifications could prove problematic.
For the future, it will be unlikely to pass the 111 point inspection and would not therefore qualify for any further extended Porsche warranty. However, as you say, life is too short and there are plenty of alternative warranties available. [:)]
Regards,

Clive
 

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