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2019/04/15 11:30:21 (permalink)

Goodridge Brake Hoses

I'm just starting to think about my MOT next month and remembered that last years advisory was that the ferrules on the brake hoses had slight corrosion, so I want to replace them and was thinking about Goodridge
 
Has anyone used Stainless steel Gooridge hoses? Any issues fitting them?
 
My ferrules look very crusty now, anyone done the job recently, were the old ones easy to get off? Thanks

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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/15 13:18:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Diver944 2019/04/15 13:56:01
Hi Paul
 
I only have good things to say about Goodridge braided hoses, I recall the words of doom from some against me fitting them to my car a long time ago, before the disc's that I've just changed so well over 15 years, perhaps 19.. I always used Goodridge on my Fords so ignored those against their fitting on a 944. I think nearly 20 years service with no problems and no sign of them needing to be changed anytime soon is good enough testimony as to their value.
 
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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/15 16:45:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Diver944 2019/04/15 21:23:57
Agree with Pete totally, only I would say they are slightly longer than standard, route them carefully so they don't rub on any of the brackets at the rear

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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/15 17:41:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Diver944 2019/04/15 21:24:00
I’ve also fitted these to my 944 turbo. I really like them great quality and I deffinately have a better pedal for them . 
The originals can stretch and bulge over time and that is what was happening to me, with braided there much stronger and won’t stretch like rubber under preasure.
 
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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/15 21:11:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Diver944 2019/04/15 21:24:04
I've had them on about 8 years. All good.
 
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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/16 07:19:30 (permalink)
Using Goodridge on my 964 for years now, never had a problem. Fitting was easy. Would for sure do it again.
 
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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/16 08:18:07 (permalink)
The factory is in our Region in Exeter and we had a tour there recently.  A very impressive place and real quality products for a range of car manufacturers and one top end sports car producer in the UK in particular.

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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/16 11:22:26 (permalink)
Cheers guys, I've just ordered a set for some Easter Weekend maintenance.
 
Changed the disks and pads last weekend so looking forward to stopping on a sixpence 
 
I'm not looking forward to getting the old rusty ones off. Very careful and targeted soaking with WD is in order - eek!

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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/16 12:07:19 (permalink)
have fun Paul
 
As Waylander stated, do be careful in how you route them, I'm sure you will anyway but worth pointing it out...
 
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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/16 12:17:37 (permalink)
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Cheers guys, I've just ordered a set for some Easter Weekend maintenance.
 
Changed the disks and pads last weekend so looking forward to stopping on a sixpence 
 
I'm not looking forward to getting the old rusty ones off. Very careful and targeted soaking with WD is in order - eek!


Hi Paul.
Plus gas or Wurth 'rost-off ice' are better than wd40 - If the new pipes definitely look like they should fit, or you dont need the car cutting the pipes and using A ring spanner or socket might make it easier to remove the rusty old ones. Assuming there is clearance for that to work! If not a brake pipe spanner is better than an open ended.
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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/16 13:39:05 (permalink)
Just ordered a set from Goodridge - £92 inc VAT for the full kit.
 
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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/17 14:54:50 (permalink)
Mine just arrived from Design911 - very swish but they do look an inch or so shorter than I remember my rubber ones. I'll find out at the weekend.
 
I have got some flared brake spanners, so we'll just see how it goes

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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/18 00:01:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Diver944 2019/04/18 08:40:15
I fitted Goodridge to the front and new standard ones on the rear. If you look at the rear suspension setup it causes the brake hoses to twist - something the braided ones aren’t great at handling but the standard rubber tolerates far better. YMMV but each to their own. 

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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/18 00:17:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Diver944 2019/04/18 08:40:17
Please can you clarify the reasoning behind this statement, full travel of the rear arms is only as far as the shock allows it down and the bump stop upwards, in terms of a circle this can't be more than about 20_30 degrees maximum that hardly describes a twist in the hose, in fact I would think the front flexes more.
 
I have read this in other places before and there is no real evidence to convince me that this would be dangerous at all, incorrect fitting is more likely to cause an issue, I have had mine fitted for nearly 6 years and I inspected them all at the mot last week and they are in perfect shape after 15,000 miles

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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/18 00:39:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Diver944 2019/04/18 08:40:19
A friend raced a 944 with braided hoses and they were fine, another had issues and when he removed them and cut them open they were damaged inside and it was hidden by the braiding.
 
Depends on a multitude of factors, including intended usage, I was at pains to point out that there was no “right” answer. 

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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/18 10:46:58 (permalink)
It's a long time since I've had a car with them fitted, but I've read rubber hoses have a certain amount of 'cushion' and braided hoses can remove some of the feel.
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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/18 16:52:31 (permalink)
blade7
It's a long time since I've had a car with them fitted, but I've read rubber hoses have a certain amount of 'cushion' and braided hoses can remove some of the feel.




That's the problem, never believe everything you read ! 
 
It's Quite the Opposite! 
 
Rubber hoses give / expand and flex more especially with pressure, 
hoses can have an braid of nylon or stainless steel over the inner hose for good abrasion resistance but most of the aftermarket sets use a ptfe plastic inner hose and NOT a rubber hose with a  braid over the top.
 
It's this that yields a higher burst pressure and much less resistance to bulge and flex like OE rubber ones do. 
 
Hence you'll get a firmer pedal with an aftermarket ptfe Inner set, and a softer / longer / more spongy pedal with a Rubber hose.
 
https://www.goodridge.co....se?variant=32846480007
 
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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/19 10:55:04 (permalink)
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blade7
It's a long time since I've had a car with them fitted, but I've read rubber hoses have a certain amount of 'cushion' and braided hoses can remove some of the feel.




That's the problem, never believe everything you read ! 
 
It's Quite the Opposite! 
 
Rubber hoses give / expand and flex more especially with pressure, 
hoses can have an braid of nylon or stainless steel over the inner hose for good abrasion resistance but most of the aftermarket sets use a ptfe plastic inner hose and NOT a rubber hose with a  braid over the top.
 
It's this that yields a higher burst pressure and much less resistance to bulge and flex like OE rubber ones do. 
 
Hence you'll get a firmer pedal with an aftermarket ptfe Inner set, and a softer / longer / more spongy pedal with a Rubber hose.
 
https://www.goodridge.co....se?variant=32846480007
 
R




Well isn't that exactly what Blade7 said?  The only variance is whether you prefer the firmness of the braided hose or the slight give of a rubber hose. So not "Quite the Opposite" at all.

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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/21 10:16:41 (permalink)
Eldavo
A friend raced a 944 with braided hoses and they were fine, another had issues and when he removed them and cut them open they were damaged inside and it was hidden by the braiding.
Depends on a multitude of factors, including intended usage, I was at pains to point out that there was no “right” answer. 



 
Hmmm so one friend had braided hoses and they fine, but another had issues and you think the "Damage" was caused by them bending due to their position? 
 
If a Rubber hose bends it's more likely to "kink" like hose pipe can do, as it's relatively soft.
A PTFE liner braidfed hose is much stiffer and would only kink with a severe twisting which I can't understand could happen
unless they were fitted incorrectly, a cheap make used with a smaller bore? or some sort of damage? 
 
Racers use them for improved pedal feel and robustness.
 
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Re: Goodridge Brake Hoses 2019/04/21 10:19:31 (permalink)
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blade7
It's a long time since I've had a car with them fitted, but I've read rubber hoses have a certain amount of 'cushion' and braided hoses can remove some of the feel.



That's the problem, never believe everything you read ! 
It's Quite the Opposite! 
 
Rubber hoses give / expand and flex more especially with pressure, 
hoses can have an braid of nylon or stainless steel over the inner hose for good abrasion resistance but most of the aftermarket sets use a ptfe plastic inner hose and NOT a rubber hose with a  braid over the top.
 
It's this that yields a higher burst pressure and much less resistance to bulge and flex like OE rubber ones do. 
 
Hence you'll get a firmer pedal with an aftermarket ptfe Inner set, and a softer / longer / more spongy pedal with a Rubber hose.
 
https://www.goodridge.co....se?variant=32846480007
 
R


Well isn't that exactly what Blade7 said?  The only variance is whether you prefer the firmness of the braided hose or the slight give of a rubber hose. So not "Quite the Opposite" at all.



No John you've also missed it ! 
 
The best Pedal "Feel" is Hard, not soft.
 
If you imagine pushing a Sponge with your right foot, as opposed to a piece of wood you;ll have a very vague soft and mushy feel from the sponge which correlates to a POOR brake pedal feel for where the bite and torque is. 
 
IF someone wants a soft "giving" mushy feel go and stick with Rubber hoses, if you prefer a harder pedal and better feel
try ptfe liner Braided hoses.
 
R
 
 
 
 
 
 
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