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zcacogp

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Chaps,

The offside catch for the hatch on my S2 caused grief again yesterday so I took it apart, cleaned the crud out, re-greased it and put it back together. It's all nice solid bits of steel and there is nothing in there to go wrong that a clean and bit of grease won't fix, right?

Wrong. There is the little rubber cone at the bottom that perishes over time. Mine crumbled when I took the thing apart. I guess that nigh on 30 years isn't bad, but I find myself wondering what to do about it. Currently the thing is back together without the rubber part but I am wondering what the effects of leaving it out will be. I haven't driven the car so don't know for sure, but if it needs replacing then what are my options?

It seems that my local OPC will only sell me the complete catch. I am guessing this a little as that seems to be the internet consensus, and I can't find a part number for the seat itself meaning that I bet I can't tell the nice chap at the parts desk exactly what it is I want. Google has helpfully taken me to the only944 option, like this;

https://www.only944.com/partscatalog/only/hatchpinseats/

$27 for some tiny bits of delrin and rubber lining. I know, I know, don't judge the price of a part by it's size, judge it by what it does. Well the price is another $14 for delivery, plus whatever the Post Office want to slap on as a handling and import charge. Not much change from £50 by the time it's in my hand, I'll bet - and I'll also bet that gold is cheaper in terms of £/oz.

So, my question - are these parts essential? And, if so, what has anyone else done when they have crumbled on their cars?

Thanks in advance.
 
couple of years ago brand new ones were £40 each, now they are £92....... Each

I will do the same as everyone else, blame Brexit
 
Can't blame something that hasn't happened yet ....

... and while May and Barnier and Junkers are all to busy with their Brexit shenanigans they are too busy to help me with my hatch pin seals, so what should I do? [:eek:]
 
I kept an eye on eBay for the boot locks which had the plastic seats still in place. Picked up a pair for £20 with the inserts looking almost new. You can clearly see the state of them presuming sellers out good photos up of course.

Far as I aware they're mostly there to seat the pins correctly so running without them may result in a bit of a rattle but no harm.

Good luck
 
As above, see what’s available
if not then the only 944 ones are your only option, think it will rattle like crazy with them
 
Yes they will rattle very annoyingly. I got change out of £60 for 2 new ones from OPC a few years back. Might be cheaper getting a flux capacitor......:ROFLMAO:
 
Chaps,

Thanks for the replies. I guess that a rattle is the worst that can happen. And whether it is a bad rattle or not is subjective.

Given that the purpose of the [art is to hold the conical end of the hatch pin away from the rest of the catch then what is needed is a solid rubber thingummy of the right size and shape to fit in the hole. A ready-made thingummy of the right dimensions would be a lovely thing to find - i.e. there must be a part for something entirely different that would work well for the job. Failing that, what about making something yourself? Casting rubbery things is not that hard and surely worth a go. £60 isn't much in the grand scheme of things but it would be nice not to have to spend it, and of course it may well be a lot more nowadays.

I'll see what can be done and report back.


Oli.
 
I got the only944 ones - while my daughter was on holiday in Florida I ordered them and they delivered to her AirB&B. While I was waiting for them I experimented with what I had in the garage, and found that the rubber grommets made to go in metal boxes that electric sockets go in are a good fit. Only problem is that they won't let water drain through like the proper ones. No rattles though!
HTH

 
I was thinking along the same lines as Olli casting some may not be that hard, but you would need a good original first though :rolleyes:

PS the only 944 ones should escape duty (and therefore handling charges?) if the total with shipping is $41

Tony
 
zcacogp said:
Chaps,

Thanks for the replies. I guess that a rattle is the worst that can happen. And whether it is a bad rattle or not is subjective.

Given that the purpose of the [art is to hold the conical end of the hatch pin away from the rest of the catch then what is needed is a solid rubber thingummy of the right size and shape to fit in the hole. A ready-made thingummy of the right dimensions would be a lovely thing to find - i.e. there must be a part for something entirely different that would work well for the job. Failing that, what about making something yourself? Casting rubbery things is not that hard and surely worth a go. £60 isn't much in the grand scheme of things but it would be nice not to have to spend it, and of course it may well be a lot more nowadays.

I'll see what can be done and report back.


Oli.


I'm thinking Oil (or is that Olli) is on to something here ;-) LOL

You can now get rubbery filament for extruding with 3D printers so this might be an option. I have also had some success with printing moulds to make things out of silicone so again this might work. If someone could send me an original of reasonable quality I would be happy to have a look. I only need it to generate the 3D model so you could have it back afterwards.

PS. I might already have one as there is something big and black in my garage but I can't remember where my 13mm spanner is so nothing is coming off it soon. [:D]
 
Chaps,

Thanks for the replies.

Steve - that's the sort of thing I was thinking about! Draining water is an issue but my guess is it would be quite easy to cut some drainage channels in the grommets to allow this. I wonder how much water they get through them, but even a little in the lock would be a nuisance.

Tony, John, casting or printing is along the lines of my thoughts but I can't offer a good original; one side has crumbled and I'll bet that the other side is on it's way out. I can offer the crumbled bits if you can make a 3D model from that? Failing that John, you need to ask your son to wave his 10mm spanner (it's not a 13mm!) and take the catches off the back of yours. OR - better! - take the car out and drive it a bit! I mean it's not as good as an S2 but it's still a 944 so still at least half-decent, eh? [;)]

Anyway, in other news I drove my S2 last night. Not far (about 3 miles) but over the pock-marked mess which passes for the London Road System and the good news is .... no rattles! I'm not confident it will remain this way with more use and longer journeys but it doesn't sound like there is a 6-month-old with a box of Fisher Price's finest in the boot just yet.

Thanks for your help.


Oli.
 
I wonder if that is my problem too.

I had a minor rattle about 10 years ago but nipping up the pins half a turn cured that. It came back during a tour of the Highlands this summer and another half turn meant the hatch wouldn't stay shut [:mad:]

I bought some new pins from the OPC but spent a very annoying afternoon trying to adjust them (the boot either popped open all the time or wouldn't open at all) I gave up and refitted the old pins and just stuck two thick cushions under the rear wiper motor which stopped the rattle perfectly (And provides a comfy resting place for my head if the Missus makes me sleep in the garage again [8|] )
 
The rear hatch workings are indeed a dark art. A new hatch seal goes a long way to curing issues and also aiding the pop up on button press. I've renewed that, plus pins plus latches plus struts and it's mostly rattle free and nearly opens on button press! Well on a hot day it opens fully, cold day it gets only about 2 inches. Car definitely male :ROFLMAO:
 

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