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notsogreengts

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Guys and gals,

I’m newish to the forum and I have recently bought a 2018 Macan GTS.

We absolutely love the car.

I use use it for work and do a fair amount of mileage and will continue to do so throughout the winter.

Not only that; but we are spending Christmas in the Outer Hebrides so want to get advice now.

I have been trying to look at winter and all season tyres for ages now and the only ones I can find are the Pirelli scorpions which are Porsche approved with the NO rating.

You try to speak to different garages and they say that the scorpions are only any good when there is actually snow and ice. Trouble I’ll also need to use them when it’s dry and cold, and at the moment I can’t afford to buy a whole new set of wheels and tyres, so this season I’ll just have to change the tyres.

Ive also looked at the Verde all season but they don’t seem to come in 20” and not NO rated.

im open to suggestions and not limited to Pirell!!

I could really really do with some advice as I’m about to throw the towel in.
Someone please give me an idiots guide on what to do?

Thankyou all
 
Re. `different garages` .... have you asked Porsche and Pirelli their view ?

We have been using non Pirelli Winter`s for the last fifteen years on non Porsche`s ... both Winter only and all year round. Have never experienced an issue.

 
Hi

its not so much the manufacture of the tyre I’m concerned about, it’s more about the fact that actually I need some good solid advice about which tyres to use.

Must I have the NO rating on them?

Do I need winter tyres or all season tyres?

etc etc

I am struggling to find tyre places that have the right tyres, and Porsche dealerships charge ridiculous money for the same tyres.

 
When we collected our Macan from Leipzig in October 2014 we specified all season tyres on 18 inch rims. The tyres we have are; 235/60R18 GreenX Michelin Latitude NO (made in Hungary). Still good now with 26,700 miles on. No idea whether they are available in 20 inch size.

I didn't fancy changing wheels/storage issues twice per year as I have no garage.

HTH

David



 
I assume that you have looked at ... https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/porscheservice/vehicleinformation/tyreapproval/ ... where Winter and All Season options are listed.

I would stick with Porsche`s recommendation of using only N rated tyres, as noted in your vehicle handbook.

Given that you already have Summer tyres I would fit Winter`s.

I agree with your sentiment on Porsche pricing, my last set of Summer tyres were £200 less (fitted) from an independent. If you purchase N rated tyres elsewhere then consider asking Porsche to fit them, estimate £120 to £150 for this.

 
... and, if I recall the article correctly, a 4x4, eg, your Macan, on summer tyres, may well be out-driven in the snow and ice by a BMW 3 series on winter tyres.

Winter tyres are best but all season tyres, as their name suggests, are a compromise, year round option without wheel changing twice.

https://www.michelin.com/eng/media-room/press-and-news/press-releases/Products-Services/New-Porsche-Macan-Factory-Fitted-with-Michelin-Tyres

https://www.pirelli.com/tyres/en-gb/car/find-your-tyres/fit-on-your-car/porsche/macan

D

 
Its an expensive car. I recommend getting winter wheels and tyres from your Porsche dealer - it will give you a huge amount of confidence

 
notsogreengts said:
Guys and gals,

I’m newish to the forum and I have recently bought a 2018 Macan GTS.

We absolutely love the car.

I use use it for work and do a fair amount of mileage and will continue to do so throughout the winter.

Not only that; but we are spending Christmas in the Outer Hebrides so want to get advice now.

I have been trying to look at winter and all season tyres for ages now and the only ones I can find are the Pirelli scorpions which are Porsche approved with the NO rating.

You try to speak to different garages and they say that the scorpions are only any good when there is actually snow and ice. Trouble I’ll also need to use them when it’s dry and cold, and at the moment I can’t afford to buy a whole new set of wheels and tyres, so this season I’ll just have to change the tyres.

Ive also looked at the Verde all season but they don’t seem to come in 20” and not NO rated.

im open to suggestions and not limited to Pirell!!

I could really really do with some advice as I’m about to throw the towel in.

Someone please give me an idiots guide on what to do?

Thankyou all
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Please be assured that no piece of rubber alone will stop you from slipping and sliding in snow and ice unless the tyres are fitted with studs or chains.

With 40+ years experience in the Motor Trade and as someone who used to run my own Tyre Company I personally would never bother buying Winter wheels and or tyres.

With 4 x 4 some common sense and a little bit of luck you should get about as safely as the next man, unless he has studs or chains that is !

Best regards,

Wayne.

 
I fit winter wheels and tyres to our Cayennes. The summer tyres on these massive 20" and 21" rims are at least 275 wide, you might as well wear flippers if you come across any snow. We have the Pirelli on our winter wheels (Pirelli winter, not the ice and snow version) and whilst not my favourite, they are perfectly effective. You will be able to keep driving when everyone else is slip sliding.

I have separate wheel sets, so I can change them myself on the drive. And you can flog them on eBay when you change car.

The alternative is just buying tyres, and then swapping them over at the dealer or kiwis fit etc twice a year.

As mentioned above, it's easy to order a complete package from a Porsche dealer. If buying separately, you need additional wheel rims and additional TPMS valves - those were about £180 on top of the wheels when I last did it. The dealers can be quite 'flexible' on the pricing of the packages [;)].

They're good in the rain too, the wider, deeper grooves in the tread pattern providing good clearance and resistance to aquaplaning compared to summer tread patterns.

You can only try and see for yourself, I personally appreciate the safety, security and confidence they give.

 
Plenty of KN wheels and tyres on Ebay including this winter tyre set on 18" rims. https://www.ebay.co.uk/bfl/viewbids/283250427064?item=283250427064&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565

A separate set of wheels with 18" boots will be a much better bet (and probably cheaper) than buying new 20" tyres and having to get them changed twice a year. Or there are these if you want genuine Macan wheels

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Macan-S-18-Alloy-Wheels-Michelin-All-Season-Winter-Tyres-M-S/152859523533?hash=item23972339cd:g:nKEAAOSwnlFaVN2u:rk:7:pf:0

Just alter the wheel radius setting in your PCM

Regards,

[font="comic sans ms,sans-serif"]Clive[/font]

 
The problem with driving a four wheel drive car is it makes accessing the road friction coefficient very difficult. Pulling away makes it appear you have good traction, the problem is then stopping or steering a two tonne plus mass into a corner.

I think this video says it all! I look at winter tyres like airbags, you hope you never have to use them in anger, but it could save your life or at least save a lot of body repairs!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=elP_34ltdWI

 
Hello,

Not sure if you are interested but i purchsed a set of new winter tyres from Porsche Tonbridge back in November and have done less than 400 miles on them over the winter. They are now in storage and i am not going to put them back on as I just dont use the car enough to justify it since we got a Range this year. They are 245/35 R20 PIR W240s and 295/30 R20 PIR W240s and i paid £1,564.05 for them. I would be interested in selling them if you wanted a set like new at a discount. Reciept attached

Thanks,

dom

07885 914 032

 
I have the Porsche T-equipment 20" winter wheel and tyre package for my Macan Turbo fitted with Michelin Alpin 5 N0 rated winter tyres. They are excellent, and performed extremely well during the wintery weather season in the Scottish Highlands. I swapped the wheels over myself in my driveway, a less than 2 hour job done with due diligence. I covered approximately 1700 miles in snow, slush, and icy driving conditions with complete confidence. The Michelin Alpin 5 tyres are also superb in slushy/wet road conditions.

As a previous post pointed out, it's not just traction avant that is important when driving a heavy car such as the Macan. Steering and stopping is also a prime requirement. With this in mind, I can unreservedly recommend fitting winter tyres if your driving needs and mileages can justify the cost. It's a lot cheaper than fetching a Macan from a deep ditch.

Brian



 
Yeah, over priced. I could use a set as my Turbo has the 21" wheels with summer performance tyres that are not too friendly in the snow!

 
Just become available, 4 absolutely mint Macan S wheels with winter tyres for sale, £800.00 the set. Continental Conti Winter Contact Fronts: 235/60 R18, 103V Rears: 255/55 R18, 105V Approx 5+ mm tread remaining. The wheels are absolutely unmarked and as new pictures available if interested. Bought from Swindon OPC (cost £2,134) and used for 2 or 3 months each winter last 3 years. They are in Oxshott, Surrey (between M25 junctions 9 and10) actually in a cupboard made specifically to store them when not on the car). One careful owner, Macan sold, new 911 on order.

 
on the basis that winter tyres should be replaced at 4mm minimum (not a legal requirement of course) I reckon winters with only 5 mm won't have much usable life left in them. I use winters all year round and they do go noticeably "off" when they get close to 4mm especially in very wet or snowy conditions.

 
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