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andymac1966

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I use Farecla G3 cutting compound on my cars - the G3 isn't too harsh, but there are other versions available that are coarser. I've found it better than T-Cut, but you need to make sure you use it damp. (I saw Ed China using it on Wheeler Dealers, which gave me the idea !).

Andy

 
I have polish swirls on my car, I bought some original TCut to polish them out but was told by someone not to use it as it is to harsh to use on my car, they said that Halfords do one that isn't as harsh, I went in and asked the question but they didn't know of any such polish. So what I am asking is does anyone know of a suitable polish to use.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards
jb1
 
jimbeam1 said:
I have polish swirls on my car, I bought some original TCut to polish them out but was told by someone not to use it as it is to harsh to use on my car, they said that Halfords do one that isn't as harsh, I went in and asked the question but they didn't know of any such polish. So what I am asking is does anyone know of a suitable polish to use.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards

jb1

T-cut is long outdated at this stage but if the car has a lot of swirl marks you are better, depending on how handy you are, buying/borrowing a decent polisher and doing a paint correction on the car. Given that you were mentioning t-cut and no offence intended there is a fair learning curve involved so personally I’d recommend finding a GOOD local Detailer and let them do it.

car will look amazing afterwards then just get some advice on maintaining it.

 
Whilst I don’t really have a problem with swirl marks on my Porsches since using my Maguiars Dual Action polisher and taking great care washing, I was keen to try out a relatively new product from Maguiars, Maguiars G17616EU Swirl Remover on a car with swirl marks, applied by hand. I found it easy to use and it worked remarkably well. This product may rid your car of swirl marks as a cheaper alternative to using a good detailer. I enjoy the satisfaction of doing it myself. Having tried several polishes including Swissvax I like the finish achieved with Meguiars G18216EU Ultimate Liquid Wax. Some may scorn but I get lots of compliments about the finish and my 944 has won 2 x Firsts and 1 x Third in PCGB Concours this year.

 
The problem is even if you remove the swirl marks are you prepared to only wash your car 'properly' from now on to stop the swirl marks returning? That's a big undertaking and a slippery slope (snow foam, 2 bucket method etc etc) [:)]

 
Mike IRL said:
jimbeam1 said:
I have polish swirls on my car, I bought some original TCut to polish them out but was told by someone not to use it as it is to harsh to use on my car, they said that Halfords do one that isn't as harsh, I went in and asked the question but they didn't know of any such polish. So what I am asking is does anyone know of a suitable polish to use.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards

jb1

T-cut is long outdated at this stage but if the car has a lot of swirl marks you are better, depending on how handy you are, buying/borrowing a decent polisher and doing a paint correction on the car. Given that you were mentioning t-cut and no offence intended there is a fair learning curve involved so personally I’d recommend finding a GOOD local Detailer and let them do it.

car will look amazing afterwards then just get some advice on maintaining it.

This is the best advice you have had!

 
The Autoglym Super Resin Polish is a mild polish and will remove mild/medium imperfections using different pads; course thru mild - I restored my light lenses using this product. You will need a polisher such as dual-action head as mentioned. For swirl marks you may need more aggressive polishes. Various brands such as Meguiers or Scholl that are applied in stages. Afterwards you will need to protect using a good wax. A good resource is detailingworld.co.uk, although be careful as you'll find the advice like a 'black art' and more confused by the array of products all claiming to be the best. Also check youtube as there are huge amount of tips.

 
T911UK said:
Mike IRL said:
jimbeam1 said:
I have polish swirls on my car, I bought some original TCut to polish them out but was told by someone not to use it as it is to harsh to use on my car, they said that Halfords do one that isn't as harsh, I went in and asked the question but they didn't know of any such polish. So what I am asking is does anyone know of a suitable polish to use.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards

jb1

T-cut is long outdated at this stage but if the car has a lot of swirl marks you are better, depending on how handy you are, buying/borrowing a decent polisher and doing a paint correction on the car. Given that you were mentioning t-cut and no offence intended there is a fair learning curve involved so personally I’d recommend finding a GOOD local Detailer and let them do it.

car will look amazing afterwards then just get some advice on maintaining it.

This is the best advice you have had!

+1 on that

 
No offense but if you're that green about what and how get a professional detailer to deal with it.

it willprobably look like new after.

The water based Porsche paints are very thin to be messing and learning with.

Paint will never really shine untill those swirl's are gone, some coatings can do quite a good job of hiding them e.g ceramic but careful not to get ripped off.

Sorry forgot to add, you'll never remove swirl's by hand either, you will need to do it with a polisher so all the more reason to get a professional as you could really do some damage.

 
Ditto to all of the above! :)

Firstly, if you don't feel confident about DIY, yes, get a detailer, but you are on a slope (as mentioned) in then keeping your car washed properly. That, or you budget a detailer every year IMO! :) Personally, since 911 ownership, I never knew how much there was to learn about paint, paint correction, what wax, polish, ceramic coatings, resins etc do, what the two bucket method is, when to polish, when to wax and when to compound! I personally found it interesting in learning about it all (mainly online forums, videos etc) but it's made me think about going into detailing, as I do love the satisfaction of doing it right. If my car or 911 goes to any garage, I request them NOT to wash it. No way will they ever do it right. I test everything I do on my A3 first, or the Mrs Merc, as thats a company car.

Secondly, I taught myself polishing on a neighbours '06 Polo he bought for his au pair (she lasted a month, maybe it was the Polo?! :) ) He was keen to get in in tip top shape, he did the mechanics, I prepped and cleaned it. Sold it for ÂŁ400 more than he paid for it :) If you are able to practice polishing or products on another car (or go to your scrap yard and buy a ****ed up bonnet) and try products and polisher yourself on something else first.

Thirdly, any 'quick wash hand wash' that your local EU residents may offer for ÂŁ5-ÂŁ10 may shine for now, but how clean is there equipment? Also, the products they use will likely mask or hide the swirls better, but they are not repaired. This is why you use a detailer to correct the issue. I know you didn't ask about this, but thought it was worth mentioning.

Whatever you do, I wouldn't use TCut personally, as said above, it's very outdated and things have come a long way. I use a range of products, but most of my body work stuff is Meguairs.

HTH

 
D911ARK said:
Thirdly, any 'quick wash hand wash' that your local EU residents may offer for ÂŁ5-ÂŁ10 may shine for now, but how clean is there equipment? Also, the products they use will likely mask or hide the swirls better, but they are not repaired. This is why you use a detailer to correct the issue. I know you didn't ask about this, but thought it was worth mentioning.

A very good point - I wouldn't let these guys near any of our cars. However, in an absolute worst case scenario, you could ask them simply to jet wash (with no products used at all) just to get any heavy muck off. Then go and clean, polish, wax etc yourself at home or get a pro in to do it on a regular (annual?) basis.

Definitely another thumbs up from me on the Meguiars stuff. Gives very good results.

 
Thanks to you all for your replies. What a can of worms it all is. I really didn't realise how involved it can all be. I am really not looking for a concourse job with rosettes at the. I do know about needing to wash dust and grit off with a spray hose before washing the car, the rest I do agree I am rather green about. Before I polish the car I would like to remove the swirls, if possible then polish and wax as necessary. I do think though getting it detailed first is probably a good idea.

jb1

 
The polish (as in the action, not the product) should remove the swirls.

Where are you based? I can recommend an excellent detailer of you're anywhere near me (Gloucestershire). Used him 3 times for a machine polish with spectacular results.

Cheers,

Bryan

 
Briggy said:
The polish (as in the action, not the product) should remove the swirls.

Where are you based? I can recommend an excellent detailer of you're anywhere near me (Gloucestershire). Used him 3 times for a machine polish with spectacular results.

Cheers,

Bryan
I am in Cambridgeshire so not very helpful.

jb1

 
Contact our very own Cliff Wilkins. He should cover your area

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jimbeam1 said:
Thanks to you all for your replies. What a can of worms it all is. I really didn't realise how involved it can all be. I am really not looking for a concourse job with rosettes at the. I do know about needing to wash dust and grit off with a spray hose before washing the car, the rest I do agree I am rather green about. Before I polish the car I would like to remove the swirls, if possible then polish and wax as necessary. I do think though getting it detailed first is probably a good idea.

jb1

Yes, it can be a (very shiny) rabbit hole that you disappear down. Ultimately it's up to how happy you are with the swirl marks but there will be lots of support on here. Best of luck with however you proceed and I'm sure we'd all like to see some pics of the finished article!

 
jimbeam1 said:
Thanks to you all for your replies. What a can of worms it all is. I really didn't realise how involved it can all be. I am really not looking for a concourse job with rosettes at the. I do know about needing to wash dust and grit off with a spray hose before washing the car, the rest I do agree I am rather green about. Before I polish the car I would like to remove the swirls, if possible then polish and wax as necessary. I do think though getting it detailed first is probably a good idea.

jb1
Depending on what you would describe as 'concours', a detailer will have many levels of price, and options to remove swirls, offer different after coatings etc. I'm not saying a detailer wouldn't make it look concours, you or I could make it look shiny for 5 minutes, but, what you have to remember is, you are trying to (for now) repair the paint, in correcting the swirls, then ideally applying some protection to protect it from the elements (rain, mud, snow, UV rays etc) Once you've rectified the basics (swirls) you then want to protect that work and make it easier to maintain, that's where coatings and waxes come in and what a good detailer will talk you through and offer advice on. I agree with you, you're not possibly after a 2 day job rolling into 4 figure sums concours job, but, for paint repair and swirl removal, if paying to get that done, you definitely want to look at a protection job (even if it is you waxing it for example) to protect the paint and that repair.

:)

 

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