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Steering column change.

MZ racer

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Has anyone changed a the steering column on an early (pre 85.5) 944, nither the Porsche workshop manual or the Haynes manual have much to say on the subject. Although the Porsche manual does go into some detail on the post 85.5 version.

Are there any tricks involved in this maintainence operation, did any one change the bushes and needle rollers as well?

Regards

Barrie
 
Upper or lower sections?

Guessing upper as talking about needle rollers.

Early and late cars have the same basic set up, actual pieces, angles and trim are different.

The main problem is taking the ignition switch / steering lock off, bolts must be drilled out.

If you're doing it because of apparent play in the needle bearing, I would check the u/j next to the exhaust manifold first as this is usually the main source of play.
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Mike

I can hear a knocking noise high up in the column, so suspect the bushes and bearings, I have a new shaft and lower section with UJ's that will go on at the same time. I can detect slack at the bottom end of the column where I think the needle bearing is, when I pull the shaft up and down vertically.

Have you drilled out the security bolts, did you just replace them with normal bolts?

Thanks

Barrie
 
In the end I just replaced the lower shaft with its u/js and found that 90% of the noise and movement had gone, so left the top shaft.

If I needed to change it I would have just drilled and replaced them with suitable normal bolts.
 
Mike

I have the steering column disassembled with the exception of the shear bolts, I am just scheming a cunning plan on that one, it seems like the column and shear bolts are quite a bit different between the early and later 944's, I think this relates to Mark 1 or 2 Golf hardware.

Right at the moment, I have found that there is a lot of slack in the top bearing, the one which is pressed into the ignition lock housing, this bearing controls all radial movement at the top of the column. The bearing is not listed by Porsche as a seperate item and the housing with new bearing is about £94.00 plus VAT from Porsche.

I decided to go down the route of getting this housing new for a Mk 1 Golf, there are quite a few vendors of these at around £27.00 plus VAT, when talking to VW heritage spares in Burgess Hill it transpired that the bearing is avaliable as spare part, not a lot cheaper at £25.00 but at least I do not have to change the lock barrel or bearing over. So I have ordered the bearing and plastic sleeve.

The needle roller and housing at the bottom end of the column is dodgy and this has been ordered from Porsche at around the £90.00 mark inc VAT. The UJ shaft will also be changed although I all ready have a new one of those from Ebay.

I will take some photo's if my technique for the shear bolts works and will post the same.

Barrie
 
Barrie,

When I re-built my steering column, I initially found pressing the lower bearing fully into the bulkhead a touch tricky.

In the end I made a press tool from some M8 studding and large washers.

Also, immediately prior to pressing, I smeared the rubber with a small amount of contact adhesive. This helped the rubber to slide. I then left the unit under compression for 30mins before undoing the M8 studding. This helped it from popping back out again.

Good luck!


 
OK chaps I have completed the steering column change (upper and lower sections) and both the top and bottom column bearings, I thought I would write a few notes on the job in case anyone else tries this work, all of the below relates to a square dash vehicle.

1) It is possible to do this work without removing the dashboard. Although the speedo needs removing and the instrument panel pulling a little way out of the dashboard.

2) The shear bolts that hold the sleeve around the top section of the column are tricky to get out, I used a dremel with a reinforced disc to shave away at the heads of the shear bolts, eventually they gave up the fight! the bolts left in the bracket were then easy to unscrew by hand. There is a possibility that the bolts could be drilled out although the drill will have to be very long and keeping any drill centred on the dome of the shear bolt will be tricky, I dont think there is room for a centre punch to get a start point for the drill. All of this access is from the footwell, I think the shear bolts in the 85.5 model cars are accessed from the dashboard area rather than the footwell.

3) If the top bearing needs replacing go and get a new Mk 1 Golf ignition lock housing which has the bearing already mounted for about £30.00 off of the bay, then change the lock barrel over from the old housing. The bearing is swaged in place and very difficult to get out, hence just buy the new housing, although I did actually change the bearing, I would not reccommend it, the bearing is from a Beetle 1303 as is the small rubber bush. All of these parts are avaliable from VW Heritage in Burgess Hill, Porsche price for the Mk 1 Golf ignition housing is £94.00.

4) The bottom needle bearing is a Porsche only part as far as I can tell and costs around £90.00, remove the old one by pushing a snug fitting socket on the end of a 300mm extension bar into the needle bearing and then pull the bar side ways and the bearing will pop out of the bulkhead. Replacemnt is quite easy, either pull the bearing into place with an improvised puller or get a long piece of 2"x2" wood and push this down in place of the column and a couple of sharp taps will drive the bearing into place. Use silicon grease or contact adhesive as a lubricant on the rubber housing to get it to bed down easily.

5) The bottom piece of the column with the UJ's can be removed without taking the alloy tray off of the underside of the engine. The UJ clamps will need spreading with a small chisel to get them to slide off of the splines.

6) Re assemble everything loose to get good alignment then tighten up. Make sure that you have the ignition key pushed into the barrel as this retracts the steering lock, it will not be possible to get the column into place properly unless the steering lock is retracted.

7) Use copper slip grease on the splines and bolts in case someone else has to get the assembly apart in a few years time, and normal grease around the needle bearing and top bearing.

The steering in my car feels very good now, with none of the clunking coming from the top of the column.

Good luck if you try this yourself, allow at least a day for the work if you have all of the components ready to replace.

 

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