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PDK buttons or new Paddles????

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C2Nerves

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After the long wait for the paddles, i am somewhat disappointed that they are not fixed on a steering column. They move with the steering.

the whole idea of paddles is to have them in a fixed position so that you wont lose their position during a full steering lock turn!!

This does not make paddles much better than PDK buttons. in fact, the buttons still has an advantage that you can change gears up/down without having both hands on the steering.

THOUGH I HAVE CHOSEN PADDLES FOR MY NEW ORDER, I AM NOW CONTEMPLATING GOING BACK TO BUTTONS!??
COMMENTS PLS...
 
I have a similar problem, although I havn't placed my order yet. Paddles fitted to the steering wheel can get you in difficulties, particularly if you use the steering method recommeded by the police rather than using a racing style and keeping your hands fixed to the steering wheel - not always possible on the public highways. I have always wondered why the paddles couldn't be fixed like they appear to be in rally cars.

Much as the aftermarket may prefer "flappy paddles" I think that the standard PDK buttons have a lot going for them, once you have got out of the habit of trying to change down by pressing the bottom of the button - like I do for my present tiptronic 'box. So I think - at the momenrt - I will be ordering stadard PDK buttons - unless I change my mind again. Mmmm, I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure!

Regards

Richard
 

ORIGINAL: C2Nerves

After the long wait for the paddles, i am somewhat disappointed that they are not fixed on a steering column. They move with the steering.

the whole idea of paddles is to have them in a fixed position so that you wont lose their position during a full steering lock turn!!
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Do you really want to be changing gear on a full steering lock turn anyway?
 
The paddles will be far more intuitive than the buttons.

Not normally a fan of turbos, but really looking forward to seeing this new one.
 
No Rodney, you are right we dont change gears on full lock.

But i just cant understand why PAG didnt solve the problem by offering fixed paddles. The main argument against the present PDK buttons was that they move with the steeirng, and that they are counter intuitive. I dont think the counter intuitive issue is valid, since intuition is learned by experience...

I usually know what i want in my order. This time i am totally boggled by this!!!
 
I think it's more usefull to have the paddles move with the steering wheel because you can keep both hands on the wheel through a bend when that's most needed. Anything more than 90 degrees and you don't really want to be changing gear anyway so I don't see the advantage of fixed paddles. Tbh I think the journos were being lazy in their judgement of the PDK buttons because as you say intuition is learned by experience. I think most PDK users are quite happy with the current arrangement because they've spent more than 5 minutes with the car.
 
How are the paddles fitted on an M3?? I did think that once Porsche announced Paddles then the resale of cars with PDK would get hosed but if they have messed up the position of paddles then maybe not. I guess its like anything...all about getting used to it
 
Whilst it may not be "like-for-like" relevant, it's interesting that the paddles that VW use for their DSG gearbox are the same - attached to the steering wheel rather than the column. Perhaps the "family" influenced the choice.

Regards

Dave
 
cant remember-but i know i kept changing up rather than down midturn as a result of the way they were positioned-very frustrating!!
 
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