CHEAP 964RSR FOR SALE
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paul howells
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Its a nice Proper rsr,price not so silly in dollar terms with spares etc,shame our exchange rate is so poor now.
Sold ..... these cars have a long long long way to go ...... the 964RSR and its siblings[
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jason
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ORIGINAL: PhilRS
Another one to join the (currently rather long, relative to numbers made) list of "for sale" RSRs... [
ORIGINAL: jason
http://www.93porschersr.com/
Not sure I should continue the restoration on mine ...they are almost giving these away these days [
Naaahhh sold in 48 hours...
And so we come back to the age old argument in respect of values......
Is a car with race history and development ( not saying the M-P car has been ) worth more than a similar car without history but has been more cosseted??
The number put against the Spa winning car currently pushes it in favour of the race car.... the red RSR with 16 miles on it or whatever it was that was for sale pushes the Spa car hard however.
The real value of these cars will surely be seen when they start to qualify for more historical racing formulas.....that is if there is any fuel left / we are allowed to run petrol powered combustion engines[].
M-P car is well known to a couple of people here on the forum who I am sure would be happy to give more info if required.
Is a car with race history and development ( not saying the M-P car has been ) worth more than a similar car without history but has been more cosseted??
The number put against the Spa winning car currently pushes it in favour of the race car.... the red RSR with 16 miles on it or whatever it was that was for sale pushes the Spa car hard however.
The real value of these cars will surely be seen when they start to qualify for more historical racing formulas.....that is if there is any fuel left / we are allowed to run petrol powered combustion engines[
].M-P car is well known to a couple of people here on the forum who I am sure would be happy to give more info if required.
Completely agree, I think the car with race history will appeal more over time, if not today. Like you say, I would guess we are still 10years away from people getting very excited about earlier 90s racing cars, but lets hope it comes!
Currently interest is low, although it is being tried (i.e. the GT90s series - one to watch!)
http://gtrevival.com/
Currently interest is low, although it is being tried (i.e. the GT90s series - one to watch!)
http://gtrevival.com/
jason
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Think its a balance between the 'quality' of the race car and its 'provenance' against the non race car.
think it goes like this
1. A mint fully restored race car with very good provenance
2= A mint fully restored race car with average provenance
2= A mint original paint non race provenance car
3. A mint fully restored non race provenance car
4. Non restored car with race provenance
5. Non restored car without race provenance
Mint cars and cars with excellent race history will always command a premium over the non versions
think it goes like this
1. A mint fully restored race car with very good provenance
2= A mint fully restored race car with average provenance
2= A mint original paint non race provenance car
3. A mint fully restored non race provenance car
4. Non restored car with race provenance
5. Non restored car without race provenance
Mint cars and cars with excellent race history will always command a premium over the non versions
paul howells
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No fully restored factory race car should be on the top of the list,people should be shot for taking all the history away by fully restoring a race car,60% of proving correct cars is in the patina and war wounds etc.Sympathetic restoration is the way forwards if you have to.
The Americans are just getting it now.
The minters from new would generally be on the same level as a good ex racer, there are the exceptions like the 16 milers etc there are those that collect minters for there collection and those who like to get them out and use them by buying race historied cars, both are prepared to pay top dollar for the right car.
The 964rsr factory cars will be one of the cars to have in the future,now sounding like des!
The MP car is a good car that's gone through some period development,which is allowed,its dam quick also,probably with the best engine out there on Throttle slides etc.
The chassis is very good with some small war wounds.The price has been increased also.
We entered the first gt 90 round,the problem with the gt90 is the high entry fees to be able have track time with the fia gt rounds.
If any one is interested,i am requesting the club get a race slot in next years Silverstone classic,and would like numbers of cars who would like to race in say a 5 or 6 car class race,from 2.0 ltr 911,914 etc up to the 993gt2.
I think the club should be back at silverstone classic with a racing representation.
There was a distinct lack of porsche at Silverstone classic.
The Americans are just getting it now.
The minters from new would generally be on the same level as a good ex racer, there are the exceptions like the 16 milers etc there are those that collect minters for there collection and those who like to get them out and use them by buying race historied cars, both are prepared to pay top dollar for the right car.
The 964rsr factory cars will be one of the cars to have in the future,now sounding like des!
The MP car is a good car that's gone through some period development,which is allowed,its dam quick also,probably with the best engine out there on Throttle slides etc.
The chassis is very good with some small war wounds.The price has been increased also.
We entered the first gt 90 round,the problem with the gt90 is the high entry fees to be able have track time with the fia gt rounds.
If any one is interested,i am requesting the club get a race slot in next years Silverstone classic,and would like numbers of cars who would like to race in say a 5 or 6 car class race,from 2.0 ltr 911,914 etc up to the 993gt2.
I think the club should be back at silverstone classic with a racing representation.
There was a distinct lack of porsche at Silverstone classic.
jason
Active member
I agree Paul but a lot of cars I think will get quite full restorations when being offered for sale as thats what 'collectors' often want...shiny shit sells!
There are probably more of these 'collectors' around the world than racers with deep enough pockets to go clubman racing in them and pay megabucks to start with?
Agree on Silverstone....certainly wasn't a lack of Porsche at Classic le Mans!
There are probably more of these 'collectors' around the world than racers with deep enough pockets to go clubman racing in them and pay megabucks to start with?
Agree on Silverstone....certainly wasn't a lack of Porsche at Classic le Mans!
If you are seriously talking about getting porsches into silverstone classic and are looking to cater for 964 models, then I'd definitely submit an entry in the NGT. I just missed out on a drive in one of the few porsches there, although I counted quite a few in the pre-65 appendix K, and some in the 70s class (928 and a couple of 911s).
Really interested to hear you entered the GT90s series, I know when I looked, it seemed big money (lorries, team support and mid 90s big GTs.
Really interested to hear you entered the GT90s series, I know when I looked, it seemed big money (lorries, team support and mid 90s big GTs.
Couldn't agree more Paul. Remember walking the pits at Renn Sport Reunion a few years ago?? Lots of very nice cars that had been over-restored within an inch of their life. This was then drastically and emphatically counteracted by one of the Toad Hall cars ( I think ) that was a true jigsaw but represented the way things were - each have their place.
As much as I would love to be running at Silverstone 2011 not sure I have big enough pockets / nads..... ( delete as appropriate. Actually, just delete both)
As much as I would love to be running at Silverstone 2011 not sure I have big enough pockets / nads..... ( delete as appropriate. Actually, just delete both)
paul howells
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At the time the gt90 races were 2000 euros,expensive part is the travelling to paul ricard,monza etcYou dont need a big truck etc
paul/rsr done a race at Silverstone in the gt90 also, in my ex gt2 racer,it has great potential if the finances were more sensible.Its been trying to happen for 4 or 5 years now.
Ben you have big enough pockets,race insurance and away you go,if we get the right cars on track there would be enough respect for other drivers and cars.I can see it and hear it now, that very nice 964 rsr on straight through pipes lapping silverstone.Just imagine you are in your kart when driving it!!
I have 6 cars so far,50 would be nice.
paul/rsr done a race at Silverstone in the gt90 also, in my ex gt2 racer,it has great potential if the finances were more sensible.Its been trying to happen for 4 or 5 years now.
Ben you have big enough pockets,race insurance and away you go,if we get the right cars on track there would be enough respect for other drivers and cars.I can see it and hear it now, that very nice 964 rsr on straight through pipes lapping silverstone.Just imagine you are in your kart when driving it!!
I have 6 cars so far,50 would be nice.
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