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Eldavo

Eldavo

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So I need to do my front discs and pads, pads are pretty worn but the surface is glazed with some light fractures:

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Discs are shot, showing fractures on the surface and they're very wavy when you run your finger over them:

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There's quite a lip going on too:

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I rang camskill about the lead time on mintex M1144 pads and they called mintex while I was on the line, lead time is 6-8 weeks on all "M" pads at the moment - sheesh! Although I could probably get some on eBay or find somewhere with them in stock I suppose.

The guy at Camskill recommended either EBC blue stuff or yellow stuff pads as an alternative. EBC discs are not too badly priced either.

Before I buy the solid EBC discs and blue/yellow pads for circa £275 are there any other options people recommend? And would you go blue or yellow stuff?

Thanks in advance.
 
I use EBC yellow stuff in my car - once warmed up they are great, but when cold or not being worked hard they require a bit of a shove! I think that the yellow stuff are meant for road and track use, whereas the blues are a bit more hardcore - I'm happy with the yellows.

Mick
 
Those pads are ok arent they? Maybe reface them to get a nice flat surface for the new disc

Standard discs (sebro) - no need to pay a premium. We had a new ebc disc crack clean through on a honda a few years back.

Must be someone with 1144 or 1155 in stock. You could try pagids - expensive but long lasting.

I hear ebc have improved.
 
Ive not looked into whether or not ferrodo do a ds2500 pad for our cars but rate them very highly on the hot hatches ive had before.
Little bit pricey but as close as you can get to a track pad without having to worry about temps etc
 
Pagid discs run to £103.24 the pair from CarParts4Less so looks like I'll go for those over the Sebros.

I'll have a ring around to try and get some 1144 pads otherwise I'll go for the yellow-stuff pads as they sound suitable for what I want.

The DS2500s look great but are overkill at the moment!
 
I ran EBC grooved and slotted discs with Greenstuff pads on my pug and I thought they were superb combo,I hammered the clap out of them and they didn't wear out or fade on track,really rated them as a value for money pad disc combo.
You know I rate the Pagid RS29s just a bit pricey but they do last and wow do they stop you on your nose!
 
Never had a problem with normal OEM pads for road use - Textar or Pagid. I recently tried some EBC yellows because I picked them up for only £30 and they are totally fine too.
 
Thanks Paul, I forgot to add (from the other thread) that they're for fast road use and 2-3 trackdays a year.
 
Standard Pagid pads are a bit of a lottery now, I think. With regards to EBC having improved of late: I would suggest that they had a great deal of room for improvement.

Does everyone remember Fred Flintstones car? Well, Id sooner use Freds pads than EBCs!
 
I still think those pads look ok though.

As for ebc - there are enough people using them in all sorts of applications to suggest they are ok. Not my choice, but then neither are ds2500. Some racers I know of use yellows.

Last week at cadwell there was a chap in a 350z. He was going pretty well (well faster than me) & its a heavy car. He was on ebc bluestuff.
 

ORIGINAL: 944 man

Standard Pagid pads are a bit of a lottery now, I think. With regards to EBC having improved of late: I would suggest that they had a great deal of room for improvement.

Does everyone remember Fred Flintstones car? Well, Id sooner use Freds pads than EBCs!
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I have to say that my experience of EBCs were similar to yours. Crap from start to finish.

In your shoes Ed I reckon you should find somewhere selling M1144s. On the two cars I drove they were head and shoulders above EBC Greenstuff (a friend of mine had Yellowstuff and M1144s saying that the yellows were OK but they really needed to be warmed up to work). They should work well for you (good cold bite, but also great when on the move; if I am honest they are a little too sharp on the 205!(That's on stock but new discs (Brembo brand) and M1144s)).

Your pads to me do not look too awful (as EdH said) but the discs do look to be towards the end of their life.
 
My last post on this subject for now...

Standard Porsche pads work pretty well on track, may well be enough for 2-3 days a year

Might be worth trying once you've worn out your current pads in a year's time [:D]
 
I've seen (and used) a lot worse... The edges still look in good shape so I don't expect them to fall apart any time soon.

I've had pads with an uneven surface before & resurfaced them with a file. Get them flat & they should be fine on new discs.

I'd use them, but it's not my car
 
Thanks ed, much appreciate it.

Think I'll do as you say for now while I choose and wait for some better pads. Driving to Germany and the ring at the end of July so may as well do it properly beforehand.
 
I bet you'll get a contrary opinion any second telling you they are potential death traps... [:D]

Hmmm....Is it the wrong time to mention insurance and the nordschleife?

or are you renting a car to drive round there?
 

ORIGINAL: Eldavo

Doing the F1 circuit :)
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ah well you're definitely not insured...

I know UK and Euro ATDO days don't require insurance but I've heard that some german TDO's expect you to have third party insurance. I have no idea if this is actually true.
 
No insurance but a lot less things to hit or be hit by and no road-liability. Shouldn't be any different to a UK trackday in that respect.
 
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